Removing Old Spokes
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Removing Old Spokes
Postby peteGS » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:50 pm
I've got a pair of Westwood pattern 28 x 1 1/2" wheels that I need to swap the hubs on with some drum brakes and they need some lovin' but I can't get the spokes out.
I've squirted some penetrating oil on them but trying to undo them with a spanner just starts twisting the spoke. What's the secret?
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Postby hiflange » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:17 am
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Postby peteGS » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:49 am
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Re: Removing Old Spokes
Postby Torana68 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:30 am
the secret is a proper spoke tool , is that what your using?
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Postby barkmadly » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:15 am
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Postby WyvernRH » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:37 am
Cheers
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Postby barkmadly » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:47 am
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Re: Removing Old Spokes
Postby peteGS » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:29 am
Torana, nope, just a spanner... perhaps that makes me the spanner? I'm assuming something like this would be the go (this was my first search result):
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TL0007-SPOKE ... 2623wt_865" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As for re-using, thanks again guys... I wasn't sure on that but the main reason to get them out in one piece is to be able to measure them accurately. Some of the ones I've got will be the right length for the drums, but some won't, so I need to work that out. I've come across spoke length calculators online so I'll use several of them to make sure I get the same results and get the right size. Thanks for the supplier links too!
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Postby Mulger bill » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:23 pm
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Re: Removing Old Spokes
Postby peteGS » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:29 am
That one's not going to be here until the New Year so I'll hunt some more and see if there's any locally I can get before Christmas...
Quick edit: Forgot to ask what's the difference between the two? Is one just easier to use than the other?
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Postby Torana68 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:04 am
the second one is far easier to use, if you still have issues tighten the nipple a little before removing sometimes that gets them going, your local LBS should have one
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Postby peteGS » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:16 am
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Postby hiflange » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:38 am
The online spoke length calculators are pretty useless with old rims and hubs as their databases only have measurements for current kit. To use them you'll need to establish the effective rim diameter (ERD), hub flange radius to spoke holes and flange offset for your rims and hubs.peteGS wrote:I wasn't sure on that but the main reason to get them out in one piece is to be able to measure them accurately. Some of the ones I've got will be the right length for the drums, but some won't, so I need to work that out. I've come across spoke length calculators online so I'll use several of them to make sure I get the same results and get the right size.
Roger Musson has a simple method for measuring ERD accurately using the nipple ends of two old spokes. Can't recommend his ebook highly enough, get it here for USD $14. He has a spoke calc on his site too.
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Re: Removing Old Spokes
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:31 am
+ Lots.RobertFrith wrote:Roger Musson has a simple method for measuring ERD accurately using the nipple ends of two old spokes. Can't recommend his ebook highly enough, get it here for USD $14. He has a spoke calc on his site too.
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Re: Removing Old Spokes
Postby peteGS » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:54 am
Didn't get to do any measuring last night (hot day + pool + beer = no measuring) but should get into it this week.
Looks like Roger + a proper spoke tool will have me sorted.
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Postby peteGS » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:15 pm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121010821781 ... _500wt_882" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
After measuring with the verniers, I need at least two different sizes just for one of the wheels...
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Postby Mulger bill » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:03 am
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Re: Removing Old Spokes
Postby sled » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:24 am
barkmadly wrote:Buy plated (not stainless) spokes from 'bike parts plus more' - an online seller in Melbourne. Has 311 mm spokes too. Good prices and service.
I need to respoke my wheels i don't see why you wouldn't use stainless???
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