Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Rhubarb » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:05 am
Here's an interesting article that would be good to forward to your contacts in Qld Govt etc:
http://lcc.org.uk/pages/seville-goes-dutch" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In summary, it outlines how Seville managed to achieve a 10 fold increase in cycling trips in 6 years, and how the city has benefitted as a result.
Critically, it showed they were able to build the base infrastructure in just 4 years.
The out-take for govts: Build it right and they WILL come !!!!
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Comedian » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:33 pm
At the moment in Aus... citizens are asking their leaders for more roads.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:18 pm
The list goes on.
The ONLY way we'll see anything done is after the next election, and by lobbying the opposition regardless of your political bias.
No money will be spent on cycling in this term.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Comedian » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:35 pm
I do agree with you on all the cutting stuff. It's nuts. I just hope the decline in services is obvious enough by the next election for people to see it and vote accordingly.
As I've said before though, I think the public does get what it wants, and at the moment it's asking for and successfully getting roads. I doubt anything will change while fuel is cheap.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby The 2nd Womble » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:34 pm
The meeting with the Transport minister? Well he said "It's coming but not yet" in relation to the Springfeild link, but I feel 98% certain ATM that it was merely lip service. I'm yet to find anyone that disagrees given that the current government is now being touted as worse than back in the days of Joe and Russ.
To give you an idea of how spiteful it's become, look at Tasmania, the current temps, the "catastrophic" brushfire alerts - which I've never heard referred to before - in Qld, and despite the pledge to streamline the SES by only culling administrative numbers in response to community concerns, front line fire fighters are being told they're no longer needed.
Admins, you have to excuse the politics in this thread but it goes to the very core of advocacy regardless.
The only thing I can see being done for cyclists is law changes, and that's only if it doesn't cost too much. Lives are cheap, saving them isn't. I think that sums Qld up right there ATM.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:29 pm
This is Government, not politics.The 2nd Womble wrote:Admins, you have to excuse the politics in this thread but it goes to the very core of advocacy regardless.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby The 2nd Womble » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:06 am
This man must be dragged from office and buried alive before we are!
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:50 am
Stupid beancounter logic. Paying for service X comes outta my budget so I'll cut it and I look good. Paying for the knock on costs (usually higher in a societial as well as monetary sense) come outta your budget so you look bad.
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
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Re: Meeting with QLD's Transport Minister this Thursday
Postby Hamster » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:58 pm
Comedian wrote:Or building a giant phallis that will replace a owned and cheap to run office building.
The amount of money that this ego trip will end up costing us would be sufficient to build cycling infrastructure to would be the envy of any city anywhere. The problem with cycle paths is that you can't drive a 4WD on them and they don't contain 5-star ministerial offices.
I agree - The Executive Building might be old and ugly but it performs its function perfectly well.
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