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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby bomber » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:47 pm

I'm amazed you can can publicise and advertise new products before the company has officially launched them through their own official sources. Don't get me wrong Garmin dropped the ball on all the info leaks but to be an 'authorised dealer' I would have thought you would be subject to an embargo of sorts.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby boss » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:23 pm

bomber wrote:I'm amazed you can can publicise and advertise new products before the company has officially launched them through their own official sources. Don't get me wrong Garmin dropped the ball on all the info leaks but to be an 'authorised dealer' I would have thought you would be subject to an embargo of sorts.


It's been launched - it's on the Garmin website.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby RobGrinter » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:24 pm

You are correct yet incorrect. The leaks have caught a few off guard and as such, as an Australian Authorised Dealer, we have been in constant contact with the correct people that have allowed us to provide you with the details.

The details have indeed been leaked everywhere and Garmins website has many references to the product live now, so it is hardly something you should be amazed at. (Unless of course you are a dealer yourself and cannot understand what is occurring and why you have yourself been caught offguard)

Be assured as one of Australia's largest Authorised Garmin Fitness Dealers, everything we do follows all the correct procedures.

The pricing is definitely under wraps though.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby takai » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:47 pm

For those who want a cracker of a deal on the 800 then its $399 here: http://blackmanbicycles.com.au/shop/gar ... 800-bundle

Local store too.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby RobGrinter » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:05 pm

Here is the Official Press Release. Including info about the new daylight readable touchscreen on the Edge 510 (my personal fav upgrade)

Pricing is US. I should be able to release Aust pricing tomorrow.

OLATHE, Kan./January 7, 2013/Business Wire — Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation, today announced the Edge 810/510 and Garmin Connect Mobile app for cyclists who want accuracy and reliability when tracking their statistics and location for racing, training and recreation. The Edge 810 and 510 are Garmin’s first dedicated cycling devices with real-time connectivity and combine the most popular aspects of the industry-leading Edge 800/500 while adding advanced connected features through a smartphone. The new user-friendly interface, along with live tracking, social media sharing and real-time weather updates make them perfect for training, touring and riding on the trail. The Edge 810 and 510 will debut at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES South Hall 4 - 35812), where they will be prominently displayed.

“With these new connected Edge devices, riders can continue to expect robust data, industry leading accuracy and durability that cyclists have come to know from Garmin,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales. “Using the connectivity through smartphones, we will enable cyclists to take advantage of features such as real-time tracking and instant uploads, while keeping their phones safe in their saddle bags and relying on the power of the Edge on their handlebars, to provide accurate data in all conditions.”
The Edge 810 is the perfect choice for the cyclist who wants the ultimate performance and navigation machine. This new Edge features a sleek 2.6” color display, up to 17-hours of battery life, and a newly redesigned and simplified touchscreen interface. The 810 is compatible with optional detailed street or TOPO maps including BirdsEye Satellite Imagery, so it can guide cyclists for touring, commuting or extended activities where they might need onboard maps and navigation. Because it’s GPS-enabled and its navigation capabilities require no data usage, the Edge 810 is a perfect choice anywhere in the world.

The Edge 510 was designed specifically for performance driven cyclists and is a light-weight (80g) compact option. The 510 features a similar user interface to the 810, boasts a new 2.2” sunlight readable touchscreen display and is compatible with both GPS and GLONASS satellites for faster satellite acquisition and improved signal lock. The 510 is suited for the most challenging conditions, such as canyons and adventures with heavy tree cover. The Edge 510 is rugged, waterproof and has up to a 20-hour battery life. The touchscreen is easy to operate, even with a gloved finger and when wet. It also comes with a tether to ensure the device doesn't travel far in the event of a spill. To see the Edge 810 and 510 in action, go to www.garmin.com/edge .

Both the Edge 810 and 510 accurately track speed, distance, time, GPS position, elevation, calories burned, ascent and descent. For even more real-time data on display, the 810 and 510 sync wirelessly through ANT+™ technology with compatible third-party power meters as well as Garmin heart rate monitors and speed/cadence sensors. For extra-precise ascent and descent data, they incorporate a barometric altimeter to pinpoint changes in elevation. The new activity profiles feature allows cyclists to customize data fields and device settings based on their cycling activity, such as training, racing, or road and mountain biking. Switch profiles with a simple swipe of the touchscreen and the device will be set up to show the data riders need for that ride. When a ride is complete, the 810 and 510 display any new personal records achieved, such as farthest distance, most ascent gained and more.

The Edge 810 and 510 offer a suite of connected features when paired with a cyclist’s smartphone (Apple® or Android™) and the Garmin Connect Mobile app. This allows riders to gain comprehensive, accurate ride data from a dedicated device, while keeping their phone out of the elements and saving its battery in case of an emergency. The Edge tracks the data and sends it to the phone using a Bluetooth® connection. This connection allows cyclists to share all the details of their rides with friends, family and social media contacts. Cyclists can post an update immediately after their ride or race with details from their completed activity. Riders can create posts via their smartphone, and the robust ride data’s already there, thanks to the interface with Garmin Connect Mobile.

Live Tracking: The LiveTrack feature allows cyclists’ friends and family to follow their races and training rides in real-time. Invite followers using email or social media, so they can view live data on a Garmin Connect tracking page on a smartphone, desktop or tablet. Once they receive an email invite, they can click to follow and see cyclists’ stats like speed and distance, heart rate (optional), cadence and power (optional), and location on the map. If riders go out for a solo early morning ride, why not give loved ones the peace of mind by using Garmin’s LiveTrack feature. The Garmin-Sharp professional cycling team, for which we have been a title sponsor since 2008, will be using this Livetrack feature during its training rides—giving team management and coaches a real-time look at their efforts.

Weather: Get real-time weather conditions, forecasts and alerts (in areas with coverage) directly on the Edge 810 and 510 when they’re paired with a smartphone and the Garmin Connect Mobile app. This feature is useful for extended rides, and it lets cyclists keep their smartphone safe and dry, while the weather data they need is at their fingertips.

Wireless Data Transfers: Now cyclists of all levels can instantly store, share and analyze every detail of their ride— all from the road. The Garmin Connect Mobile app allows for wireless uploads of completed activities from the Edge 810/510 as soon as cyclists finish recording an activity. Riders choose whether activities are automatically or manually uploaded. Once a ride has posted to Garmin Connect, their own “connections” can view them within one of the world’s largest online fitness communities. Riders can also search their courses and workouts stored at Garmin Connect, download to their smartphone, then send directly to their Edge device — wirelessly. Cyclists can then navigate to the start of the course and use the Virtual Partner® feature on the Edge to follow and even race those previous rides in real-time.

Mounting options include a new out-front mount for heads-up positioning and a standard quarter-turn mount.

The Edge 810 is available now and has suggested retail price of $499.99 and the Edge 510 will be available Q1 2013 for $329.99. The Garmin Connect Mobile app will be available January 10, 2013. The connected Edge 810 and 510 along with the Garmin Connect Mobile app are the latest solutions from Garmin’s expanding fitness segment, which focuses on developing technologies and innovations to enhance users’ lives and promotes healthy and active lifestyles. Whether it’s running, cycling, or other athletic pursuits, Garmin fitness devices are becoming essential tools for athletes both amateur and elite. For more about features, pricing and availability, as well as information about Garmin’s other fitness products and services, go to www.garmin.com/intosports , www.garmin.blogs.com and http://twitter.com/garmin .
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby bomber » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:52 am

RobGrinter wrote:Be assured as one of Australia's largest Authorised Garmin Fitness Dealers, everything we do follows all the correct procedures.


Be assured it wasn't a dig at you but rather a comment on how badly Garmin have handled their product launch. Website leaks and the fact that Google has already found the links on their site despite not being publicly accessible as of yesterday while at the same time sending a flyer out regarding the product launch for the gadget show in Vegas starting today.

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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:01 am

Thanks for the quick answers Rob.

Will hold off for now.

Here are some very in depth reviews of the 510 & 810 from an independant, DCRainmaker

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/01/garmin-edge-810-in-depth-review.html
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/01/garmin-edge-510-in-depth-review.html
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby stinhambo » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:51 am

I can't see Garmin Connect being very useful as it requires an active 3g/4g connection which really sucks the battery.

Out of interest, I use Juicedefender for Android and I can turn off all services bar GPS when Strava is running. I went for a near 4 hour ride and came home with 73% battery left (Galaxy S3).
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby Baalzamon » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:25 pm

MichaelB wrote:Thanks for the quick answers Rob.

Will hold off for now.

Here are some very in depth reviews of the 510 & 810 from an independant, DCRainmaker

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/01/garmin-edge-810-in-depth-review.html
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/01/garmin-edge-510-in-depth-review.html



Thanks to dcrainmaker I'm now questioning do I upgrade from my 705 which is still working well
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby jasonc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:31 pm

stinhambo wrote:I can't see Garmin Connect being very useful as it requires an active 3g/4g connection which really sucks the battery.

Out of interest, I use Juicedefender for Android and I can turn off all services bar GPS when Strava is running. I went for a near 4 hour ride and came home with 73% battery left (Galaxy S3).


battery life = nokia :D
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby RobGrinter » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:27 pm

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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby sogood » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:32 pm

grantw wrote:Looks like they have bluetooth so you can drain the battery on your gps and your phone even faster

I understand that it uses the lower powered version of BT and the drain on smartphone battery (if also supports low power BT) is much much better than BT of past.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby Baalzamon » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:15 pm

BT 2.1 no way... Why did that didn't Garmin put in BT 4. BT 2.1 is old and they are going to have to release another one down the road to catch up now
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby sogood » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:27 pm

Interesting that 510 supports GLONASS. I wonder if there's an advantage to it?
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby donkuok » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:14 pm

sogood wrote:Interesting that 510 supports GLONASS. I wonder if there's an advantage to it?

Of coz yes...darn fast GPS signal lock
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby jzr » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:20 pm

@Rob from HTA...

Do you envisage the price of your 500s to reduce at all once the 510 is on your inventory - namely red premium bundle?

I've got one already but a friend is looking.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby DoogleDave » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:03 pm



Thanks for the pricing, Rob.

What has this done for the pricing to the 800 naked?
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby sogood » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:13 pm

donkuok wrote:Of coz yes...darn fast GPS signal lock

Is there a performance improvement to GPS? Or is it a backup?
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby donkuok » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:25 am

sogood wrote:
donkuok wrote:Of coz yes...darn fast GPS signal lock

Is there a performance improvement to GPS? Or is it a backup?

Great accuracy improvement and lock in the signal fast from cold start.
My galaxy note 2 is able to detect GLONASS and it locks the GPS signal less than 10 seconds. The traditional one takes more 10 seconds.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:08 am

Turning on the 800 takes longer than 10 seconds :P
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby il padrone » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:01 am

donkuok wrote:My galaxy note 2 is able to detect GLONASS and it locks the GPS signal less than 10 seconds. The traditional one takes more 10 seconds.

Similar thing with my eTrex 30 that detects GLONASS.

But I'd like to see any Garmin bike unit with the battery life of the eTrex. Running two AA batteries it has recently kept running for 7 full days of cycling - about 6-7 hours of usage each day, so well over 40 hours battery life. Garmin quote 26 hours battery life. Long battery life is of great value when doing extended cycle-touring away from power sources.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby il padrone » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:18 am

RobGrinter wrote:Be assured as one of Australia's largest Authorised Garmin Fitness Dealers, everything we do follows all the correct procedures.

OK, then can you please tell me where I can find more detailed manual instructions on how to utilise the many features of the eTrex 30? The supplied paper manual is a joke and Garmin's website does not seem to have anything.

[edit] Really must get the glasses checked! Just found the manual on the site, on the page I was looking at :oops:
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby sogood » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:24 am

donkuok wrote:Great accuracy improvement and lock in the signal fast from cold start.
My galaxy note 2 is able to detect GLONASS and it locks the GPS signal less than 10 seconds. The traditional one takes more 10 seconds.

If that's the basis of your consideration, then one has to ask if your Galaxy Note is on the mobile network. If so, then the speed of lock on would be more related to cellular assisted localizations and general performance improvements than its compatibility with GLONASS. Or maybe the addition of GLONASS provided a doubling of satellites to lock on to... Any one know the technical facts?
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby boss » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:12 am

My iPhone gets a lock on GPS within 5 seconds of the Strava app booting.

Garmin 500 tends to be 15-30 seconds. If I'm moving it can be minutes.
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Re: Garmin 510 / 810 leaked

Postby kb » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:34 am

il padrone wrote:..
But I'd like to see any Garmin bike unit with the battery life of the eTrex. Running two AA batteries it has recently kept running for 7 full days of cycling - about 6-7 hours of usage each day, so well over 40 hours battery life.


That would be nice. I suspect higher sample rates and ANT+ wireless contribute to shorter battery life. It's a shame noone's hacked these devices to make them more flexible.
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