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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby skull » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:43 pm

I just but received my order of new gators from wiggle. Got 4 for $30 each.

These Canberra roads have been destroying my rubber so I decided to give them a run
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby sloth » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:28 pm

SmellyTofu wrote:Anyone tried the GP4season? I'm tossing between the gator and gp4 for
puncture and durability.


I'm running 4season on the front and gator on the rear. Only switched 300 km ago but no complaints so far. Swapped from ultremo zx and can't say I notice much difference other than I'm not getting punctures :)
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby Puffy » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:13 pm

Sloth, Skull... fella's.
Get back on topic will ya? This is the Tater Haters thread! You want the Tater Lovers..... :roll:

I began to read you just ordered two sets and I am thinking "What sorta fool would buy two sets of the worst tyres eva?!"

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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby skull » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:09 pm

Puffy wrote:Sloth, Skull... fella's.
Get back on topic will ya? This is the Tater Haters thread! You want the Tater Lovers..... :roll:

I began to read you just ordered two sets and I am thinking "What sorta fool would buy two sets of the worst tyres eva?!"

:mrgreen:


What if I said I got two sets so I could hate them twice as much.
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby drubie » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:49 pm

skull wrote:
What if I said I got two sets so I could hate them twice as much.

Trust me, this will happen.
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby mikesbytes » Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:52 am

I was thinking about why I got more punctures with Gatorskins than I did with Pro3Race and while randomness played its part, I think there are 2 factors;

1. The roads I ride on have a hell of a lot of broken glass
2. Harder compounds pick up glass more easily than softer compounds. The softer compound of the Pro3Race tends to roll over the broken glass where the harder compound of the Gatorskin has less flex and the result is that the glass penetrates the rubber and gets picked up.
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby wqlava1 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:51 pm

Continental appears to have stopped making the Gatorskin tyres last year. The new Conti equivalent appears to be the Supersports Plus. The only Gatorskins that people are now buying are if not old stock, at least ageing stock. I base this on Bike24 (who tend to have very current products) transitioning the gatorskins off their site, and only a few sizes left on Wiggle. I may be wrong!

We'll have to see how the new ones perform, but however that is, they seem to have chosen a name that doesn't lend itself to taterskin-type nicknames. I'm just ordering a pair of the SS+ tyres for one of my sons in 28mm width tonight. Anyone tried them already?
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby Nobody » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:39 pm

wqlava1 wrote:Continental appears to have stopped making the Gatorskin tyres last year. The new Conti equivalent appears to be the Supersports Plus. The only Gatorskins that people are now buying are if not old stock, at least ageing stock. I base this on Bike24 (who tend to have very current products) transitioning the gatorskins off their site, and only a few sizes left on Wiggle. I may be wrong!

We'll have to see how the new ones perform, but however that is, they seem to have chosen a name that doesn't lend itself to taterskin-type nicknames. I'm just ordering a pair of the SS+ tyres for one of my sons in 28mm width tonight. Anyone tried them already?
Oh noes. No more Taters and the end of this thread looms. :o
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby drubie » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:31 am

Nobody wrote:Oh noes. No more Taters and the end of this thread looms. :o

VICTORY IS MINE :grin:
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:44 am

Riding in the wet last week, I remembered how much more I prefer sports tyres 8)
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby Farmer Elvis » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:03 pm

Had first flat on gatorskins on weekend in 2yrs and on 3rd set of gators, rode another 5 km and got my 2nd flat! :shock:
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby Nobody » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:28 pm

Farmer Elvis wrote:Had first flat on gatorskins on weekend in 2yrs and on 3rd set of gators, rode another 5 km and got my 2nd flat! :shock:
Probably time to replace it then.
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby theunknowncomic » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:06 am

I sold my bike to get rid of the Taters.

"And it's got new Tyres!"
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby drubie » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:35 pm

theunknowncomic wrote:I sold my bike to get rid of the Taters.

"And it's got new Tyres!"

Well I hope you didn't sell the bike to a noob - they'll be put off cycling forever after having to deal with the taters!
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby rjk » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:01 pm

wqlava1 wrote:Continental appears to have stopped making the Gatorskin tyres last year. The new Conti equivalent appears to be the Supersports Plus. The only Gatorskins that people are now buying are if not old stock, at least ageing stock. I base this on Bike24 (who tend to have very current products) transitioning the gatorskins off their site, and only a few sizes left on Wiggle. I may be wrong!

We'll have to see how the new ones perform, but however that is, they seem to have chosen a name that doesn't lend itself to taterskin-type nicknames. I'm just ordering a pair of the SS+ tyres for one of my sons in 28mm width tonight. Anyone tried them already?



if they are re-badged taters, they could get the nick of SUPERPOORS
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby drubie » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:49 pm

rjk wrote:if they are re-badged taters, they could get the nick od SUPERPOORS


I'd have gone with "Superspuds" but that's just me.
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby wombatK » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:55 pm

Drubie wrote:I'd have gone with "Superspuds" but that's just me.

+1 - hell yeah, it's your thread after all.

But you've gotta buy a pair of them so that you can offer a
proper warning to any unsuspecting buyers if they are just
a rebadge.

The threat of thread death demands to be unloomed in the
interest of good humour and the amusement of all of us.

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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby drubie » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:08 pm

wombatK wrote:
Drubie wrote:I'd have gone with "Superspuds" but that's just me.

+1 - hell yeah, it's your thread after all.

But you've gotta buy a pair of them so that you can offer a
proper warning to any unsuspecting buyers if they are just
a rebadge.


I think that should be easy to test. I'll contact the Continental distributor and inform them of the planned test:

2 x Continental Taterskins (still in my shed, un-used, purchased with my actual cash money)
2 x Continental Superspuds (provided free by the distributor)
2 x commonly available potatoes (can't decide between the French Fingerling (oo er!) and the Red Pontiac).

Test consists of inflating the fine tyres and rolling them over a typical stretch of rural road no more than 3km from the edge of town to ensure the regulation amount of glass from local bogans throwing their last roadie (that is road stubbie, not an actual cyclist) out the back window of their friends 1982 Falcon station wagon.

If the taterskins lasts more than 500m without a flat (unlikely) the test will be moved to another road. If the taterskins pssssssttttttsssss to a rapid halt, mount up the superspuds and see if they get further.

The control in this case is the boiled French Fingerlings, which should be rolled down the road for a few hundred metres to see how much glass penetrates the skin of the soft spud. If the Superspud makes it past 500m, the potato will be mashed and consumed glass and all. Call it the equivalent of eating your hat because I Refuse (heh!) to believe that Continental can make a tyre that boasts puncture protection that is any more effective than a soft boiled potato.
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:20 pm

drubie wrote:2 x Continental Taterskins (still in my shed, un-used, purchased with my actual cash money)


How old? What size?

Get the answers right and I'll give you a tenner for them :mrgreen:
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:31 pm

Hang on a moment...
drubie wrote:un-used

Are you trying to tell us that you have not actually ridden these fine tyres that you have bagged unmercifully for over three years now? Hmmm
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby drubie » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:44 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Hang on a moment...
drubie wrote:un-used

Are you trying to tell us that you have not actually ridden these fine tyres that you have bagged unmercifully for over three years now? Hmmm


On my daughters roadie that only ever sees the track. She stopped riding (taterskin unrelated incident) although "unused" in this context means they've never seen broken glass :mrgreen:

I Refuse (heh!) to fit them to any of my bikes.
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby wombatK » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:33 pm

Oh thank you Drubie, I'm ROFL :D :D
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby jacks1071 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:19 pm

Puffy wrote:I'm Mackay. Similarly wet! Had conti gp4000s black chillies on the forums recommendation. Went to gators just to try them very happy the day the sidewall went at about 1000km old. Back on the black chillies. Loving them!


With the Gatorskins you want the Hardshell version, they are good.

I run them on our tandem and wear them down to the threads no problem.
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Re: Gatorskin: WORST TYRE EVAH!

Postby ft_critical » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:30 pm

jacks1071 wrote:
Puffy wrote:I'm Mackay. Similarly wet! Had conti gp4000s black chillies on the forums recommendation. Went to gators just to try them very happy the day the sidewall went at about 1000km old. Back on the black chillies. Loving them!


With the Gatorskins you want the Hardshell version, they are good.

I run them on our tandem and wear them down to the threads no problem.


Pro-lite need to start making tyres I think.
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