I'm right to be concerned, right??

sdnelson19
Posts: 202
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:45 pm

I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:10 am

After my morning trundle with a mate I thought I should inspect my tyres for cuts (haven't done it in a few weeks) and noticed a lump/bulge in the rear and what looks like perished rubber on the front.. It didn't really fill me will confidence. I've emailed the shop where I bought them and the Aus distributor; now I am waiting for replies.
In the meantime I thought I'd ask the BNA brainstrust..

Would you ride on these?? (ignore the brand/make/model and pretend your brand x/make y/model z tyres look like these)

Image

Image

Image

Image
Image

User avatar
hannos
Posts: 4094
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:18 am
Location: Sydney

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby hannos » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:13 am

I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.
2010 BMC SLC01

User avatar
norbs
Posts: 2314
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:20 am
Location: Shoalhaven. NSW

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby norbs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:15 am

Nope, I would ride on those. That bulge is worrying enough, and the perished looking rubber doesn't fill me with confidence either.

User avatar
sogood
Posts: 17153
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:31 am
Location: Sydney AU
Contact:

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sogood » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:18 am

Perishing rubber is not a major concern at this point but the bulge is. Deflate the rear tyre and remount and reseat the tube/tyre and then see. Also examine the tyre carcass for damages at that spot. It could well be a twisted/poorly mounted inner tube. BTW, use some talc powder on the inner tube.
Bianchi, Ridley, Montague, GT, Garmin and All things Apple :)
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.

User avatar
RonK
Posts: 8240
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:08 pm
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Contact:

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby RonK » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:19 am

Your tyre has a tread separation. Get rid of it.

Schwalbe have been having this problem ever since they moved their manufacturing facility to Indonesia. There have been recalls on certain models such as the Ultremo R but the problem is more widespread than they admit. I've read threads on the touring forums where the same problem has been reported with Marathons.
Last edited by RonK on Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:23 am, edited 2 times in total.
Cycle touring blog and tour journals: whispering wheels...

User avatar
il padrone
Posts: 22738
Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:57 pm
Location: Heading for home.

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby il padrone » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:20 am

sogood wrote:Perishing rubber is not a major concern at this point but the bulge is. Deflate the rear tyre and remount and reseat the tube/tyre and then see. Also examine the tyre carcass for damages at that spot. It could well be a twisted/poorly mounted inner tube. BTW, use some talc powder on the inner tube.

+1
Mandatory helmet law?
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."

User avatar
roller
Posts: 1801
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:17 pm
Location: embleton

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby roller » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:52 am

hannos wrote:I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.


the urge to say "that's what she said" is strong.
inflammatory statement or idea

User avatar
hannos
Posts: 4094
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:18 am
Location: Sydney

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby hannos » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:04 pm

roller wrote:
hannos wrote:I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.


the urge to say "that's what she said" is strong.



:lol:
2010 BMC SLC01

User avatar
thecaptn
Posts: 1606
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Location: Deloraine Tasmania

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby thecaptn » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:07 pm

How long ago did you purchase the tires?

sdnelson19
Posts: 202
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:45 pm

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:09 pm

thecaptn wrote:How long ago did you purchase the tires?


bought in November, only used these for about 500km so far though. Plenty of tread left (not even squared off slightly yet) and the perishing only appears in the red stripe (the black part is totally unblemished).
Image

User avatar
il padrone
Posts: 22738
Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:57 pm
Location: Heading for home.

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby il padrone » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:11 pm

sdnelson19 wrote:
thecaptn wrote:How long ago did you purchase the tires?


bought in November, only used these for about 500km so far though.

Warranty.... refund :idea: . 'Not fit for purpose'
Mandatory helmet law?
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."

User avatar
brentono
Posts: 3694
Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:33 pm
Location: Perth DubyaEh.

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby brentono » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:23 pm

hannos wrote:I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.


I think it's just those grey shorts he's wearing. :)

Q? A:Yes.
:mrgreen:
Lone Rider- I rode on the long, dark road... before I danced under the lights.

Baalzamon
Posts: 5122
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:23 pm
Location: Yangebup

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby Baalzamon » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:29 pm

Warranty imo as well.

Love the rims tho :mrgreen:
Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
Image

derek594
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby derek594 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:51 pm

I know that your thread si not os much about the quality of the tyre that you ride but the current issues you are having with them.

Just to share my experience with them. Had a set (Schwalbe) that were used for 18 months, very good tyre no real issues.

Changed them late last year to another Schwalbe tyre and have had nothing but issues since. loads of flats and they seem to wear quicker (maybe more klms on different surfaces) I am 1 flat away from using them on the trainer and getting a different brand.

Intersting to hear about the switch to Indonesian production....
Image


Image

User avatar
Lukeyboy
Posts: 3187
Joined: Tue May 29, 2012 2:38 am

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby Lukeyboy » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:00 pm

I can get that look on the top of my tires after some fast and long descents from friction but from the look of the bump I'd bin it asap.

User avatar
Xplora
Posts: 8180
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:33 am
Location: TL;DR

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby Xplora » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:43 pm

il padrone wrote:
sdnelson19 wrote:
thecaptn wrote:How long ago did you purchase the tires?


bought in November, only used these for about 500km so far though.

'Not fit for purpose'

That's what she said :shock:

User avatar
sogood
Posts: 17153
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:31 am
Location: Sydney AU
Contact:

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sogood » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:49 pm

il padrone wrote:Warranty.... refund :idea: . 'Not fit for purpose'

+1. Don't expect age deterioration in 2 months.
Bianchi, Ridley, Montague, GT, Garmin and All things Apple :)
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.

User avatar
greyhoundtom
Posts: 3016
Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 6:28 am
Location: Wherever the sun is shining
Contact:

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby greyhoundtom » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:12 pm

Bugger........Schwalbe is my favourite tyre brand. :(

Most definitely "Not fit for purpose".

R12RT
Posts: 475
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:47 am
Location: Ballajura, Western Australia

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby R12RT » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:16 pm

I had the same issue with a Continental 4000S after about 50km.

Returned it Ribble. They replaced it and refunded the return postage cost.
John Beaven
2010 Malvern Star Oppy C6
2014 Giant Propel Advanced 1

sdnelson19
Posts: 202
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:45 pm

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:32 pm

thanks guys; have contacted seller and distributor to get the ball rolling on replacement. Apart from what I saw on them today i've loved every km on them so far- smooth/fast/grippy (and not a puncture at all) and make Bert (my bike) look cool as hell. If it's just a bad pair (or batch) and they're fine again now I'll definitely be buying these tyres for as long as they keep making them (properly). They've come off now and been replaced by some pro4's which I've used happily in the past. If I get these replaced under warranty (i'm honestly not that fussed if they do or not) I'll certainly put them straight back on.

Baalzamon wrote:
Love the rims tho :mrgreen:


I love the rims too, almost cried when I broke a spoke and was without them for a while....
Image

User avatar
AUbicycles
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 11577
Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:14 am
Location: Sydney
Contact:

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby AUbicycles » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:44 pm

With these tires and the photos it looks like a material defect and probably would have affected an entire batch and exactly like yours - on the red stripes and not the black rubber. This type of effect usually first appears when the rubber is old (so good reason to avoid tires that have been sitting around too long).

Was the buldge in the tire or the inner tube? If it was the tire, then a lot of things have gone wrong and really something that should lead to a general recall unless the brand can clearly isolate both of these problems as exceptional.

sdnelson19
Posts: 202
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:45 pm

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:30 pm

AUbicycles wrote:With these tires and the photos it looks like a material defect and probably would have affected an entire batch and exactly like yours - on the red stripes and not the black rubber. This type of effect usually first appears when the rubber is old (so good reason to avoid tires that have been sitting around too long).

Was the buldge in the tire or the inner tube? If it was the tire, then a lot of things have gone wrong and really something that should lead to a general recall unless the brand can clearly isolate both of these problems as exceptional.



bulge was in the tyre itself, checked inside and couldn't see anything unusual, tube is in new tyre with no problem. It's probable that I've hit a rock/pot hole on the country roads I ride on so the bulge may not have anything to do with defects or manufacture.
Image

User avatar
jacks1071
Posts: 3040
Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:47 pm
Location: Mackay, QLD
Contact:

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby jacks1071 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:47 pm

I doubt Schwalbe will have any problems honouring a warranty for that tyre.
Our Website is: http://www.kotavelo.com.au Find us on Facebook by searching for "Kotavelo"

User avatar
biker jk
Posts: 4915
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:18 pm
Location: Sydney

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby biker jk » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:13 pm

Is it a Schwalbe Ultremo R1.1? I thought they stopped producing them some time ago so even if you purchased them in November they could be a few years old.

User avatar
skull
Posts: 1965
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:48 pm

Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby skull » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:21 pm

they must be pretty old as that rubber is perished.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Feedfetcher, jindydiver