I'm right to be concerned, right??

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I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:10 am

After my morning trundle with a mate I thought I should inspect my tyres for cuts (haven't done it in a few weeks) and noticed a lump/bulge in the rear and what looks like perished rubber on the front.. It didn't really fill me will confidence. I've emailed the shop where I bought them and the Aus distributor; now I am waiting for replies.
In the meantime I thought I'd ask the BNA brainstrust..

Would you ride on these?? (ignore the brand/make/model and pretend your brand x/make y/model z tyres look like these)

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Postby hannos » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:13 am

I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby norbs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:15 am

Nope, I would ride on those. That bulge is worrying enough, and the perished looking rubber doesn't fill me with confidence either.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sogood » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:18 am

Perishing rubber is not a major concern at this point but the bulge is. Deflate the rear tyre and remount and reseat the tube/tyre and then see. Also examine the tyre carcass for damages at that spot. It could well be a twisted/poorly mounted inner tube. BTW, use some talc powder on the inner tube.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby RonK » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:19 am

Your tyre has a tread separation. Get rid of it.

Schwalbe have been having this problem ever since they moved their manufacturing facility to Indonesia. There have been recalls on certain models such as the Ultremo R but the problem is more widespread than they admit. I've read threads on the touring forums where the same problem has been reported with Marathons.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby il padrone » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:20 am

sogood wrote:Perishing rubber is not a major concern at this point but the bulge is. Deflate the rear tyre and remount and reseat the tube/tyre and then see. Also examine the tyre carcass for damages at that spot. It could well be a twisted/poorly mounted inner tube. BTW, use some talc powder on the inner tube.

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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby roller » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:52 am

hannos wrote:I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.


the urge to say "that's what she said" is strong.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby hannos » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:04 am

roller wrote:
hannos wrote:I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.


the urge to say "that's what she said" is strong.



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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby thecaptn » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:07 am

How long ago did you purchase the tires?
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:09 am

thecaptn wrote:How long ago did you purchase the tires?


bought in November, only used these for about 500km so far though. Plenty of tread left (not even squared off slightly yet) and the perishing only appears in the red stripe (the black part is totally unblemished).
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby il padrone » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:11 am

sdnelson19 wrote:
thecaptn wrote:How long ago did you purchase the tires?


bought in November, only used these for about 500km so far though.

Warranty.... refund :idea: . 'Not fit for purpose'
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby brentono » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:23 am

hannos wrote:I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.


I think it's just those grey shorts he's wearing. :)

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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby Baalzamon » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:29 am

Warranty imo as well.

Love the rims tho :mrgreen:
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby derek594 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:51 am

I know that your thread si not os much about the quality of the tyre that you ride but the current issues you are having with them.

Just to share my experience with them. Had a set (Schwalbe) that were used for 18 months, very good tyre no real issues.

Changed them late last year to another Schwalbe tyre and have had nothing but issues since. loads of flats and they seem to wear quicker (maybe more klms on different surfaces) I am 1 flat away from using them on the trainer and getting a different brand.

Intersting to hear about the switch to Indonesian production....
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby Lukeyboy » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:00 pm

I can get that look on the top of my tires after some fast and long descents from friction but from the look of the bump I'd bin it asap.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby Xplora » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:43 pm

il padrone wrote:
sdnelson19 wrote:
thecaptn wrote:How long ago did you purchase the tires?


bought in November, only used these for about 500km so far though.

'Not fit for purpose'

That's what she said :shock:
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sogood » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:49 pm

il padrone wrote:Warranty.... refund :idea: . 'Not fit for purpose'

+1. Don't expect age deterioration in 2 months.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby greyhoundtom » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:12 pm

Bugger........Schwalbe is my favourite tyre brand. :(

Most definitely "Not fit for purpose".
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby R12RT » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:16 pm

I had the same issue with a Continental 4000S after about 50km.

Returned it Ribble. They replaced it and refunded the return postage cost.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:32 pm

thanks guys; have contacted seller and distributor to get the ball rolling on replacement. Apart from what I saw on them today i've loved every km on them so far- smooth/fast/grippy (and not a puncture at all) and make Bert (my bike) look cool as hell. If it's just a bad pair (or batch) and they're fine again now I'll definitely be buying these tyres for as long as they keep making them (properly). They've come off now and been replaced by some pro4's which I've used happily in the past. If I get these replaced under warranty (i'm honestly not that fussed if they do or not) I'll certainly put them straight back on.

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Love the rims tho :mrgreen:


I love the rims too, almost cried when I broke a spoke and was without them for a while....
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby AUbicycles » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:44 pm

With these tires and the photos it looks like a material defect and probably would have affected an entire batch and exactly like yours - on the red stripes and not the black rubber. This type of effect usually first appears when the rubber is old (so good reason to avoid tires that have been sitting around too long).

Was the buldge in the tire or the inner tube? If it was the tire, then a lot of things have gone wrong and really something that should lead to a general recall unless the brand can clearly isolate both of these problems as exceptional.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:30 pm

AUbicycles wrote:With these tires and the photos it looks like a material defect and probably would have affected an entire batch and exactly like yours - on the red stripes and not the black rubber. This type of effect usually first appears when the rubber is old (so good reason to avoid tires that have been sitting around too long).

Was the buldge in the tire or the inner tube? If it was the tire, then a lot of things have gone wrong and really something that should lead to a general recall unless the brand can clearly isolate both of these problems as exceptional.



bulge was in the tyre itself, checked inside and couldn't see anything unusual, tube is in new tyre with no problem. It's probable that I've hit a rock/pot hole on the country roads I ride on so the bulge may not have anything to do with defects or manufacture.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby jacks1071 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:47 pm

I doubt Schwalbe will have any problems honouring a warranty for that tyre.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby biker jk » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:13 pm

Is it a Schwalbe Ultremo R1.1? I thought they stopped producing them some time ago so even if you purchased them in November they could be a few years old.
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Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??

Postby skull » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:21 pm

they must be pretty old as that rubber is perished.
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