I'm right to be concerned, right??
-
- Posts: 1711
- Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby thecaptn » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:45 pm
- jacks1071
- Posts: 3068
- Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:47 pm
- Location: Mackay, QLD
- Contact:
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby jacks1071 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:03 pm
Its just a dud, I've got some Ultremo's that are far older than those ones and they arn't perished.skull wrote:they must be pretty old as that rubber is perished.
- brett.hooker
- Posts: 467
- Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:52 pm
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby brett.hooker » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:11 pm
- ldrcycles
- Posts: 9594
- Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:19 pm
- Location: Kin Kin, Queensland
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby ldrcycles » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:03 pm
+1 .hannos wrote:roller wrote:the urge to say "that's what she said" is strong.hannos wrote:I certainly dont like the look of that bulge.
-
- Posts: 203
- Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:45 pm
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby sdnelson19 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:55 pm
- il padrone
- Posts: 22931
- Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:57 pm
- Location: Heading for home.
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby il padrone » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:31 pm
Tyres generally improve with age as long as they are kept out of UV exposure. I had some old Specialized road tyres that I had in their boxes from the 80s and got them out a few years ago for my road bike. They lasted very well.biker jk wrote:Is it a Schwalbe Ultremo R1.1? I thought they stopped producing them some time ago so even if you purchased them in November they could be a few years old.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
-
- Posts: 1711
- Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:28 pm
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby thecaptn » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:06 pm
Yeah, nice and hard.il padrone wrote:Tyres generally improve with age as long as they are kept out of UV exposure. I had some old Specialized road tyres that I had in their boxes from the 80s and got them out a few years ago for my road bike. They lasted very well.biker jk wrote:Is it a Schwalbe Ultremo R1.1? I thought they stopped producing them some time ago so even if you purchased them in November they could be a few years old.
- il padrone
- Posts: 22931
- Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:57 pm
- Location: Heading for home.
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby il padrone » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:11 pm
Not at all. Still supple and good grip. Folders too so any hardness would have shown up when I unfolded them.thecaptn wrote:Yeah, nice and hard.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
- Mulger bill
- Super Mod
- Posts: 29060
- Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:41 pm
- Location: Sunbury Vic
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:28 am
Nope. The perishing of the red stripe doesn't look too bad but the bulge (and the fact that it seems to have partially torn the rubber directly underneath) fills me with doubt.
London Boy 29/12/2011
- biker jk
- Posts: 7001
- Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:18 pm
- Location: Sydney
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby biker jk » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:03 am
Actually tyres deteriorate with age unless stored in a vaccum. The surface oxidises and can crack. By riding the tyre you wear off the oxidised layer which prevents cracking.il padrone wrote:Tyres generally improve with age as long as they are kept out of UV exposure. I had some old Specialized road tyres that I had in their boxes from the 80s and got them out a few years ago for my road bike. They lasted very well.biker jk wrote:Is it a Schwalbe Ultremo R1.1? I thought they stopped producing them some time ago so even if you purchased them in November they could be a few years old.
- uncle arthur
- Posts: 1387
- Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:45 pm
- Location: Brisvegas
- Contact:
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby uncle arthur » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:09 am
It's like we've formed a Committee.
- Howzat
- Posts: 850
- Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:08 pm
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby Howzat » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:13 am
- il padrone
- Posts: 22931
- Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:57 pm
- Location: Heading for home.
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby il padrone » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:17 am
Really not sure how much of a problem this is. My excellent Vittorias are made in Thailand, and have been for at least the past 6-7 years that I have been using them.Howzat wrote:Is Schwalbe's move to Indonesia a recent thing?
I still have not yet had a single penetration puncture in the various Vittoria Randonneur Cross tyres that my family has used on three different bikes. 7-8 years and over 40,000 kms for my bike (3 separate sets of tyres).
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
- il padrone
- Posts: 22931
- Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:57 pm
- Location: Heading for home.
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby il padrone » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:19 am
I did not see any evidence of this in my 25+ yr old Specialized tyres that I took out of the box for my road bike.biker jk wrote:Actually tyres deteriorate with age unless stored in a vaccum. The surface oxidises and can crack. By riding the tyre you wear off the oxidised layer which prevents cracking.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
-
- Posts: 203
- Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:45 pm
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby sdnelson19 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:30 am
uncle arthur wrote:For all the time we've spent in discussion, the OP could have bought, fitted and ridden to and from work twice each way on their new tyres.......
It's like we've formed a Committee.
I like the committee actually- which is why I asked the forum's knowledgeable people for feedback (and to get some peace of mind).
I have fitted and ridden on them- but can't see the point in taking them for a ride to work; I'm a high school physics teacher and it's school holidays
- outnabike
- Posts: 2455
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:53 pm
- Location: Melbourne Vic
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby outnabike » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:33 am
I know nothing about bike tyres, but on a vehicle, a tyre should be replaced after 6 years wether or not brand new, according to the latest info on tyres perishing. And a car runs at around 30 psi.
A bike tyre running at 80 psi would probably be of better quality than a car tyre, and may have a similar life expectancy on shelf life. Bulk purchasing may come into older unsold stock items. Not sure on date stamping on push bike tyres but all vehicle tyres have mandatory manufacture dates.
Of course if someone is doing low kays in a car and not doing high speeds it may not be a problem to them. Heat and road conditions of course come into effect as well. I am always suspicious of "block lot" sales of any type of tyre, no matter who is selling them.
- RonK
- Posts: 11508
- Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:08 pm
- Location: If you need to know, ask me
- Contact:
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby RonK » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:19 am
Depends what you mean by recent.Howzat wrote:Is Schwalbe's move to Indonesia a recent thing?
Schwalbe tyres are produced by a Korean company, Hung-A, at a factory in Jakarta. According to Schwalbe (Swallow) they have had a joint venture with Hung-A for 35 years.
I think production of some versions of Schwalbe tyres first moved to Jakarta in the early noughties, and this has gradually expanded to produce of most of the range, with most recently the production of tubulars.
As far as I can determine, production of Utremo moved there around 2007. The Ultremo R was recalled in 2009 after a history of tread seperation (delamination) failures.
The company factsheet makes interesting reading. It shows that there are 100 employees at head office, 40 at subsidiaries, and around 3500 in Jakarta (employed by Hung-A).
-
- Posts: 203
- Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:45 pm
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby sdnelson19 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:07 pm
Surely one of them can answer my email thenRonK wrote:Howzat wrote:
The company factsheet makes interesting reading. It shows that there are 100 employees at head office, 40 at subsidiaries, and around 3500 in Jakarta (employed by Hung-A).
- RonK
- Posts: 11508
- Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:08 pm
- Location: If you need to know, ask me
- Contact:
Re: I'm right to be concerned, right??
Postby RonK » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:08 pm
Unfortunately, none of them can speak english.sdnelson19 wrote:Surely one of them can answer my email thenRonK wrote:Howzat wrote:
The company factsheet makes interesting reading. It shows that there are 100 employees at head office, 40 at subsidiaries, and around 3500 in Jakarta (employed by Hung-A).
Return to “General Cycling Discussion”
- General Australian Cycling Topics
- Info / announcements
- Buying a bike / parts
- General Cycling Discussion
- The Bike Shed
- Cycling Health
- Cycling Safety and Advocacy
- Women's Cycling
- Bike & Gear Reviews
- Cycling Trade
- Stolen Bikes
- Bicycle FAQs
- The Market Place
- Member to Member Bike and Gear Sales
- Want to Buy, Group Buy, Swap
- My Bikes or Gear Elsewhere
- Serious Biking
- Audax / Randonneuring
- Retro biking
- Commuting
- MTB
- Recumbents
- Fixed Gear/ Single Speed
- Track
- Electric Bicycles
- Cyclocross and Gravel Grinding
- Dragsters / Lowriders / Cruisers
- Children's Bikes
- Cargo Bikes and Utility Cycling
- Road Racing
- Road Biking
- Training
- Time Trial
- Triathlon
- International and National Tours and Events
- Cycle Touring
- Touring Australia
- Touring Overseas
- Touring Bikes and Equipment
- Australia
- Western Australia
- New South Wales
- Queensland
- South Australia
- Victoria
- ACT
- Tasmania
- Northern Territory
- Country & Regional
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users
- All times are UTC+11:00
- Top
- Delete cookies
About the Australian Cycling Forums
The Australian Cycling Forums is a welcoming community where you can ask questions and talk about the type of bikes and cycling topics you like.
Bicycles Network Australia
Forum Information
Connect with BNA
This website uses affiliate links to retail platforms including ebay, amazon, proviz and ribble.