Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby wombatK » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:41 am
You forgot the most common defences of scoundrels...fatdudeonabike wrote: I like the disclaimer about the possibility of dead heat rules applying on the question of whether he'll admit doping...
Not quite sure how that can end in a dead heat...
I'm not saying it did happen, I'm not saying it didn't happen, I just can't recall
Maybe that count's as a dead heat ?
Another possibility : he's had this long-standing mental illness on account of his difficult childhood,
and there's actually two Lances' in there. One of them admits to drug-taking, but the other bloke
(who appeared before the court and denied doping) does not admit to drug-taking.
Pretty sure the bookies would have to rank that as a dead-heat.
And it's why we need to see him in front of Dr Phil rather than Oprah - so that Lance can get the
help we all know he sadly needs.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby find_bruce » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:19 am
But he is a competitor & I am sure he will find a way
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby AUbicycles » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:13 pm
On the betting, it would be interesting seeing the odds for standing ovations (though I understand it is a private interview and there is no audience). Also, how often these words are used: hero, survivor, inspiration, believe, chance. Even this set; fooled, cheated, manipulated, misled, lied.
Also, the chances that Oprah endorses Armstrong (whatever the outcome) and believes in him.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby fatdudeonabike » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:17 pm
You forgot miracle! You can't forget miracle!AUbicycles wrote:On the betting, it would be interesting seeing the odds for standing ovations (though I understand it is a private interview and there is no audience). Also, how often these words are used: hero, survivor, inspiration, believe, chance.
Thats a perfectly justifiable way to justify beating a field full of drug cheats when you're clean!
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:47 pm
And witch hunt.fatdudeonabike wrote:You forgot miracle! You can't forget miracle!AUbicycles wrote:On the betting, it would be interesting seeing the odds for standing ovations (though I understand it is a private interview and there is no audience). Also, how often these words are used: hero, survivor, inspiration, believe, chance.
Thats a perfectly justifiable way to justify beating a field full of drug cheats when you're clean!
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby greyhoundtom » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:20 pm
In fact if he is arrogant enough to try and justify using PED’s throughout his cycling career, all I can see is more court action by those that believe he gained money from them under false pretences.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby Sydguy » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:33 pm
It really must be killing him that he can not compete, check all the training he is doing on Strava. I follow him on Strava and he is smashing himself on the bike and running.
Only follow him for a hoot, some of the comments are too funny, and I think it is disgusting what he did.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:47 pm
Some many years back he discussed more than once the possibility of entering politics. It is likely that Lance is being less than honest in his stated reasons.
Shock! Horror! Telling a fib? Never.
If that is his real intent then it would not be a good look to state it as such. Dressing up the attempt in the form it is being peddled reduces the chance of someone suggesting publicly that it is all an attempt at being let in from the cold as a first step towards politics.
(Notwithstanding his more recent denials of interest in political office.)
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby AUbicycles » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:48 pm
Don't worry about it, with the media beat up we will all come out.... unsatisfied and disappointed.greyhoundtom wrote:I'm still finding it difficult to get my head around why LA would agree to a so called no holds barred interview, as I simply can’t see what he could possibly gain by doing it.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby gabrielle260 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:12 am
A combination of good lawyers and the various statutes of limitation.
Worth a read!
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby Fresh » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:44 pm
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby greyhoundtom » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:13 pm
Armstrong met with USADA officials recently to explore a "pathway to redemption,"
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby Mustang » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:52 pm
70 years young.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby fatdudeonabike » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:28 pm
Thanks heaps for sharing that! I never, ever watch Discovery, I never would've found that.Mustang wrote:Aired the same time as in the US ,midday on Friday, on the Discovery Channel.
Have to work... but nice to have it IQ'd rather than have to source it on the internet.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby sogood » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:34 pm
It's pretty obvious all along.greyhoundtom wrote:I'm still finding it difficult to get my head around why LA would agree to a so called no holds barred interview, as I simply can’t see what he could possibly gain by doing it.
1) Oprah and similar interviews have always been associated with the term "no holds barred". It's marketing. How else are they going to call it? "Some topics off limit interview"?
2) LA is not stupid to get a David Letterman midnight interview. Much better with Oprah.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:03 pm
Will you be able to forgive Lance Armstrong?
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby darkelf921 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:16 pm
A great article.AUbicycles wrote:I have published an opinion piece on BNA - raises a few points not discussed here.
Will you be able to forgive Lance Armstrong?
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby AUbicycles » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:29 am
She used the words 'mesmerized' and 'riveted' to describe it....
More of the PR to further elevate this story of interest or fact?
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby gretaboy » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:46 am
Lance tries to get what he wants/needs...forgiveness and an opportunity to continue competing in whatever sport he chooses
Seriously, I personally hope he goes to jail for it. Given how he has attacked people over the years who have raised such things, the way he has denied it...he needs to go to jail. Just my viewpoint.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby MichaelB » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:48 am
However, unless it's a full on admission like that, it won't be worth a damn in my mind.
Given his skills and advice, it will be a Clinton type confession, so not worth a pinch of the proverbial imho.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby AUbicycles » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:47 pm
In cycling, Eric Zabel did well for himself after his confession, Jan Ullrich didn't. Contador had done well-enough for himself and I havn't heard from the guy who did a blood transfusion with dogs blood again, so he probably didn't do well.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby Red Rider » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:19 pm
Their sins are poles apart, and Joe Public understood it was a witch-hunt against Clinton, a side-show, which is why his approvals went up. Armstrong's sins are inextricably tied to what made him, and that is why it will break him.AUbicycles wrote:I have thinking about the media buildup around the Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky scandal a bit as this builds up and wouldn't be suprised if it fizzles out like that - however Clinton (Bill) was able to redeem himself in the public eye and is very much admired despite wrong-doings. Armstrong certainly wants a piece of that.
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Re: Holy showtime Batman - Lance to admit doping?
Postby Rhubarb » Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:35 pm
"According to my rivals, peers, and teammates I won the Tour de France 7 times."
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