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il padrone wrote:(BTW, the youtube link did not show up for me, had to look at your source code.)
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Postby Ross » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:39 am
Postby boss » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:25 am
Postby jcjordan » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:37 am
boss wrote:The prices on the consumables you mention aren't as far out as you suggest.
I buy gp4000s tyres for $49 from a local bike shop. Cell and CE often have sub $40 deals.
My yellow cleats were $25 from my local.
Haven't bought a DA chain. But they're $53 from my local.
I am a pragmatist on this. I shop local when it makes sense, and I try to always check prices.
Postby Ross » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:56 am
Postby Ross » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:05 am
Aushiker wrote:Why I love shopping online ... innovation
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Postby boss » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:09 am
Ross wrote:Well you must have good LBS' that do good prices. It's not only about price, it's about range, variety and convenience. I can sit at the computer and in a matter of minutes compare prices and availablity for a dozen shops, press the button to order and generally the goods will turn up on my doorstep within a week. With a LBS you have to ride/drive 20 or more kilometres to the nearest one, find somewhere to park (maybe have to pay to park), wait for the sales assistant to finish serving other customers to find out the product(s) you want are twice the price of o/s or aren't in stock.
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... oad-cleats Club price $36 RRP $40
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... peed-chain $87 RRP $89.99
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... yre-700x23 $48 RRP $99.99 (price isn't actually too bad on these but most LBS sell them for around $100)
Postby rkelsen » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:50 am
jcjordan wrote:Makes me wonder we're they are getting their stock from.
As of 2 months ago shimano Australia whole sale prime on a DA chain was $58
Postby jcjordan » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:59 am
rkelsen wrote:jcjordan wrote:Makes me wonder we're they are getting their stock from.
As of 2 months ago shimano Australia whole sale prime on a DA chain was $58
If I owned a business which depended upon dealing with Shimano Australia, I'd call around and gather support from other shop owners in a similar situation.
Then, once I have the support of as many fellow shop owners as I can find, I'd organise a meeting with Shimano Australia to try and hammer out a better deal. You have a [virtual] bottomless pit of evidence when it comes to significantly lower prices for the same product.
You have to be prepared to threaten to walk out en-masse. If the current situation is allowed to continue, everyone will lose. Shop owners, customers and Shimano. Everyone.
You can change things. Don't just sit around crying about it.
Postby rkelsen » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:03 am
jcjordan wrote:The problem is that they hold the strongest
Postby boss » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:05 am
rkelsen wrote:jcjordan wrote:The problem is that they hold the strongest
I'm not talking about just 6 or 7 fellow shop owners. I'd call every single authorised Shimano dealer in Melbourne [or your capital city].
The threat has to be real.
And there's always SRAM...
Postby il padrone » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:09 am
Ross wrote:Wiggle is just one shop, there are many others but they tend to only stock parts for road and mountain bikes and not much if anything for hybrid type bikes. On the right hand side of the BNA home page there is a listing of a few online shops.
Postby rkelsen » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:11 am
boss wrote:Get ten shop owners in a room and you'll get 14 opinions on how to fix their woes.
Postby boss » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:17 am
rkelsen wrote:boss wrote:Get ten shop owners in a room and you'll get 14 opinions on how to fix their woes.Maybe... But how many of them would say "no" to pricing which allows them to properly compete with the online market?
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:20 am
boss wrote:rkelsen wrote:boss wrote:Get ten shop owners in a room and you'll get 14 opinions on how to fix their woes.Maybe... But how many of them would say "no" to pricing which allows them to properly compete with the online market?
Get ten shop owners and you'll have 14 variations of no.
What you're proposing (shop owners getting together en masse) sounds nice but I don't think it will happen.
Postby rkelsen » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:27 am
boss wrote:What you're proposing (shop owners getting together en masse) sounds nice but I don't think it will happen.
Postby boss » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:07 am
rkelsen wrote:boss wrote:What you're proposing (shop owners getting together en masse) sounds nice but I don't think it will happen.
I know.
It's much easier to just hang around internet forums all day whinging about your problems and blaming the government for them...
Postby cobba » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:13 am
Postby Ross » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:10 pm
boss wrote:Ross wrote:Well you must have good LBS' that do good prices. It's not only about price, it's about range, variety and convenience. I can sit at the computer and in a matter of minutes compare prices and availablity for a dozen shops, press the button to order and generally the goods will turn up on my doorstep within a week. With a LBS you have to ride/drive 20 or more kilometres to the nearest one, find somewhere to park (maybe have to pay to park), wait for the sales assistant to finish serving other customers to find out the product(s) you want are twice the price of o/s or aren't in stock.
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... oad-cleats Club price $36 RRP $40
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... peed-chain $87 RRP $89.99
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... yre-700x23 $48 RRP $99.99 (price isn't actually too bad on these but most LBS sell them for around $100)
My LBS in Adelaide has an online store and delivers to my work either same or next day
These prices only available online
Postby boss » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:20 pm
Ross wrote:boss wrote:Ross wrote:Well you must have good LBS' that do good prices. It's not only about price, it's about range, variety and convenience. I can sit at the computer and in a matter of minutes compare prices and availablity for a dozen shops, press the button to order and generally the goods will turn up on my doorstep within a week. With a LBS you have to ride/drive 20 or more kilometres to the nearest one, find somewhere to park (maybe have to pay to park), wait for the sales assistant to finish serving other customers to find out the product(s) you want are twice the price of o/s or aren't in stock.
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... oad-cleats Club price $36 RRP $40
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... peed-chain $87 RRP $89.99
http://99bikes.com.au/shop/accessories/ ... yre-700x23 $48 RRP $99.99 (price isn't actually too bad on these but most LBS sell them for around $100)
My LBS in Adelaide has an online store and delivers to my work either same or next day
Bicycle Express?
Not a lot cheap there.These prices only available online
Shimano DURA-ACE CN-7801 Chain RRP$89.95 Bargain Bin $54.95 ($36 o/s)
Shimano Ultegra PD-6700-C Pedals RRP $279.95 Bargain Bin $207.61 ($93 o/s)
Shimano RS30 Wheelset RRP $399.95 Bargain Bin $319.96 ($250 o/s)
Shimano DURA-ACE 9000 C24 CL Wheelset $1,299.00 $1,299.00 ($850 o/s)
Postby human909 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:24 pm
rkelsen wrote:jcjordan wrote:The problem is that they hold the strongest
I'm not talking about just 6 or 7 fellow shop owners. I'd call every single authorised Shimano dealer in Melbourne [or your capital city].
The threat has to be real.
And there's always SRAM...
Postby il padrone » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:47 pm
Ross wrote:Aushiker wrote:Why I love shopping online ... innovation
Andrew
I think Australia Post has a similar thng in some cities already?
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