advice on buying a Garmin
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby DaveOZ » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:12 pm
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby simonn » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:44 pm
That is very phone dependent. I've done quite a few 8-10 hour rides and it has been fine on my Samsung galaxy nexus. Not many people are doing longer rides than that.stinhambo wrote: I disagree. GPS on the smartphone can be hit and miss and can suck the battery, I've lost a few rides worth of data because Strava stopped while I took a call or took a picture.
The OP already has a normal computer (like I did) so can already do this. I mentioned this in a previous post.stinhambo wrote: Plus I like to glance at my computer to see how I'm doing. And I don't want it getting damaged in the rain.
Unless you want barometric altitude (i.e. gradient) and HRM, which is not something to dismiss as a training tool. If you do not want a training tool and only want to play Strava, a phone will do. I suppose this is my, and I suspect other's, point.All in all I think the 200 is a good purchase.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby grantw » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:46 pm
That's a good strategy. The 500 is a really a great bit of kit.DaveOZ wrote:I'm sure there are loads of 2nd hand Edge 500 out there with the new 510 hitting the market. If it was me I would grab one of those for ~ $100 and be very happy.
And here's an article that discusses the benefits of using cadence in training . It's an oldy but a goody
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby stinhambo » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:14 pm
My point is that a phone can be unreliable. I'd rather keep it tucked up in my shirt pocket in a waterproof bag and not have to use it during my ride.simonn wrote:That is very phone dependent. I've done quite a few 8-10 hour rides and it has been fine on my Samsung galaxy nexus. Not many people are doing longer rides than that.stinhambo wrote: I disagree. GPS on the smartphone can be hit and miss and can suck the battery, I've lost a few rides worth of data because Strava stopped while I took a call or took a picture.
The OP already has a normal computer (like I did) so can already do this. I mentioned this in a previous post.stinhambo wrote: Plus I like to glance at my computer to see how I'm doing. And I don't want it getting damaged in the rain.
Unless you want barometric altitude (i.e. gradient) and HRM, which is not something to dismiss as a training tool. If you do not want a training tool and only want to play Strava, a phone will do. I suppose this is my, and I suspect other's, point.All in all I think the 200 is a good purchase.
I'm not bagging the 500 by the way, I suspect I'll upgrade to one by the end of the year but for those getting into cycling, it's a good investment as there's no setup and it can be resold so it will likely cost you about $40 over the course of a year or you can just give it to a family member.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby simonn » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:26 pm
Depends on the phone and garmins can at times too. I used to keep my phone exactly like that before I got the garmin. It does not stop you from being able to use Strava either.stinhambo wrote: My point is that a phone can be unreliable. I'd rather keep it tucked up in my shirt pocket in a waterproof bag and not have to use it during my ride.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby Bentnose » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:15 pm
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby uglybob » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:27 pm
horses for courses i suppose!
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby The Walrus » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:29 pm
Many of people's forum comments are obviously their opinions and that's totally fine but when that opinion is tarred with 'the marketing brush' it's pretty worthless!
Maybe I'm just annoyed with myself for getting sucked in to it all, but now I have a CF bike and Garmin 800 I don't use because 'someone' told me it was pointless getting anything less!
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby jasonc » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:56 pm
how about this: I'll send you a garmin edge 500, and you can send me a garmin edge 800. I'll even pay postage both ways.The Walrus wrote:Maybe I'm just annoyed with myself for getting sucked in to it all, but now I have a CF bike and Garmin 800 I don't use because 'someone' told me it was pointless getting anything less!
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby simonn » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:02 pm
I'll swap my ali/CF bicycle for your CF one if you want as well?jasonc wrote:how about this: I'll send you a garmin edge 500, and you can send me a garmin edge 800. I'll even pay postage both ways.The Walrus wrote:Maybe I'm just annoyed with myself for getting sucked in to it all, but now I have a CF bike and Garmin 800 I don't use because 'someone' told me it was pointless getting anything less!
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby jasonc » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:07 pm
damn it. should have offerred him a package deal. I've got a nice and comfy flat bar I could swap for a CR roadie.simonn wrote:I'll swap my ali/CF bicycle for your CF one if you want as well?jasonc wrote:how about this: I'll send you a garmin edge 500, and you can send me a garmin edge 800. I'll even pay postage both ways.The Walrus wrote:Maybe I'm just annoyed with myself for getting sucked in to it all, but now I have a CF bike and Garmin 800 I don't use because 'someone' told me it was pointless getting anything less!
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby zzkazu » Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:25 pm
http://blackmanbicycles.com.au/shop/gar ... hr-monitor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's what I ordered this morning.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby fatdudeonabike » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:47 pm
If budget isnt an issue, the Garmin 910xt looks the best thing on the market.
The Garmin 200, honestly, looks like a relic compared to whats current available.
It's not going to do that much more than what you Cateye already does - personally, theres no way in the world I'd bother with the 200. The Cateye has served you well - it wont hurt to extend its lifespan and get the 500. Which, if youre using for training or if, like me, you're a bit of a geek - contains endless information to help you improve. $329 was the best Australian price I found at Pushys - but these don't really seem to have come down too much since the 510 was released. The other benefit of holding off a couple of weeks is that they might get a touch cheaper.
Personally - I'm saving my beans for the 910xt.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby fatdudeonabike » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:08 pm
This is a fricken steal:
http://www.thebikebarn.com.au/product.p ... t=0&page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby rifraf » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:59 am
I agree, well spottedfatdudeonabike wrote:OK - now I'm definitely going to say to get the 500.
This is a fricken steal:
http://www.thebikebarn.com.au/product.p ... t=0&page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby oldnewby » Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:25 am
I'm gonna have to read everyone's 2c worth carefully, you guys all sound like you know what you're talking about, and again - I am very appreciative of the input.
I gotta head to work now, but I'll read up tonight, I do want to buy within the next few days, so I'll be taking it all on board.
Thanks again everyone.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby simonn » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:32 am
Yes. That happened when I bought my 800. Was ~$250 cheaper from c r c. About a week after it arrived I could have got it for only $50 more from a shop in Oz. Then again it was still cheaper. The garmin distributor(s) need to lift their game and support their customers (LBSs) by sorting out the timing of discounts due to new ranges being released.Bentnose wrote:Don't you hate it when you just bought something from overseas and it turns out you could have bought it for not much more locally, sort of, Parramatta isn't exactly local for me.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby Marty Moose » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:23 pm
Have you ever tried to deal with garmin Australia in regards to wrnty ? They are useless I think you would be better off buying from overseas. I like my 800 but support and back up are crap, buy a premium hr strap and see how far you get when it fails and it will!! If you live in America its a different story.stinhambo wrote:With no Australian warranty.jasonc wrote:wiggle have them for $260stinhambo wrote: The 500 does not cost $200 or less, they are advertised at $300+ for all the HR and Cadence sensors - http://www.this link is broken/Garmin-500- ... ory=150339" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby __PG__ » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:31 pm
Why are you dealing with Garmin directly? Take it back to the store in question and get another one. Let them deal with Garmin.Marty Moose wrote: Have you ever tried to deal with garmin Australia in regards to wrnty ? They are useless I think you would be better off buying from overseas. I like my 800 but support and back up are crap, buy a premium hr strap and see how far you get when it fails and it will!! If you live in America its a different story.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
Postby Marty Moose » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:39 pm
The procedure for a failed premium heart strap a known useless product was to send the whole unit through the local shop back to Garmin. This would take up to three weeks I was told, in the US a strap would have just been handed over. Then there was the gps issue on connect that went on for months, strava had the same issue and fixed out in days.__PG__ wrote:Why are you dealing with Garmin directly? Take it back to the store in question and get another one. Let them deal with Garmin.Marty Moose wrote: Have you ever tried to deal with garmin Australia in regards to wrnty ? They are useless I think you would be better off buying from overseas. I like my 800 but support and back up are crap, buy a premium hr strap and see how far you get when it fails and it will!! If you live in America its a different story.
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Re: advice on buying a Garmin
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