[POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confession
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:07 pm
No redemption possible IMO. Call out the mob, I've got the torches and rope...
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby greyhoundtom » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:08 pm
About the only thing he has done is show the world what a unrepentant liar he is, and that it’s all about Lance and nothing else.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby il padrone » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:10 pm
(Where's the "Don't give a funkelstein" option?)
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby TomBikes » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:37 pm
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby drubie » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:30 pm
Most of them have delusions of grandeur, not many attain it and the seductive nature of his increasing legend was a monstrous trap of his own design. Have pity on him, forgive, but don't ever forget. We're all flawed in some way.
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby sogood » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:32 pm
This should be the next poll subject.Farmer Elvis wrote:Lance will end up doing time over this.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby open roader » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:36 pm
+1il padrone wrote:Lance who??
(Where's the "Don't give a funkelstein" option?)
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby drubie » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:01 am
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby greyhoundtom » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:55 am
Therefore most of the money and possessions he has are as a direct result of fraud.........take the lot off him + let him serve about 5 years jail time.........that should almost square the ledger..........not quite, but almost.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:11 am
Was LA the only doper on that stage? Was LA the first doper on that stage? Was LA the worst doper on that stage? What has been the due process in these past cases? What should be the due process going forward? It's so easy to lynch one to absolve communal wrongs.greyhoundtom wrote:Therefore most of the money and possessions he has are as a direct result of fraud.........take the lot off him + let him serve about 5 years jail time.........that should almost square the ledger..........not quite, but almost.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby Apple » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:10 am
Speak your mind,Those that mind dont matter, Those that matter dont mind!!
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:48 am
In this present world, one that's filled with commercial values, he won‘t be your only nor last flawed fantasy.Apple wrote:And to think I had fantasies about that man
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby RonK » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:05 am
That is because these seasons are still within the statue of limitations, so he could be subject to further legal consequences if he makes any admissions about this period.MarkG wrote:He's pretty adamant he didn't dope in '09 and '10 but then again, he was also adamant he'd never doped, period.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby Apple » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:21 pm
Speak your mind,Those that mind dont matter, Those that matter dont mind!!
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:30 pm
You are naughty. That we already know.Apple wrote:I am watching oprah winfrey Now and I still want to do Lance, is that wrong
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby RonK » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:53 pm
The due process has been to catch and punish the dopers. There is a chart which has been posted frequently, showing that the majority of top 10 TDF placegetters if the LA era have been caught and punished. And quite a number who never failed a drug test (Ullrich, Basso, Rasmussen) were also tracked down and punished.sogood wrote:Was LA the only doper on that stage? Was LA the first doper on that stage? Was LA the worst doper on that stage? What has been the due process in these past cases? What should be the due process going forward? It's so easy to lynch one to absolve communal wrongs.greyhoundtom wrote:Therefore most of the money and possessions he has are as a direct result of fraud.........take the lot off him + let him serve about 5 years jail time.........that should almost square the ledger..........not quite, but almost.
LA, as history now shows, has had favourable treatment repeatedly, and it has only been through the determination of a few disbelievers that we have reached the point where LA has not only admitted that he used PED's, but also that he lied about using them. So his credibilty is now on par with Landis and Hamilton.
LA is a cheat, liar and bully. His actions are absolutely unjustifiable, and unforgivable.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby ozzymac » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:17 pm
I am confused by everybody's reaction to this.RonK wrote:The due process has been to catch and punish the dopers. There is a chart which has been posted frequently, showing that the majority of top 10 TDF placegetters if the LA era have been caught and punished. And quite a number who never failed a drug test (Ullrich, Basso, Rasmussen) were also tracked down and punished.sogood wrote:Was LA the only doper on that stage? Was LA the first doper on that stage? Was LA the worst doper on that stage? What has been the due process in these past cases? What should be the due process going forward? It's so easy to lynch one to absolve communal wrongs.greyhoundtom wrote:Therefore most of the money and possessions he has are as a direct result of fraud.........take the lot off him + let him serve about 5 years jail time.........that should almost square the ledger..........not quite, but almost.
LA, as history now shows, has had favourable treatment repeatedly, and it has only been through the determination of a few disbelievers that we have reached the point where LA has not only admitted that he used PED's, but also that he lied about using them. So his credibilty is now on par with Landis and Hamilton.
LA is a cheat, liar and bully. His actions are absolutely unjustifiable, and unforgivable.
What has Armstrong done differently to anyone else?
He lied....
So did everyone else before they got caught.
Only difference I can see is that he managed to get away with it for longer and the process of proving it took longer.
Didn't Contador do the same thing?
How long did it take to convict him?
And what sort of punishment did he receive?
Armstrong's conviction just took longer, same offence but a much bigger punishment.
Is this just a case of the tall poppy syndrome?
Not quite sure I understand how certain riders get months of the bike and another rider gets a life ban.
Now I'm not a Armstrong fanboy, just think punishments should be the same for everyone.
If you are caught drug cheating in any sport it should be a life ban, no ifs or buts.
So have we now set an example by the Armstrong ban? Will it now be life bans for everyone?
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:20 pm
All publicity is good publicity.
You have all just done your bit to add to the publicity machine.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby Apple » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:24 pm
His punishment should be to train overweight or unmotivated people. He can start with me Not that I am unmotivated or overweight, well maybe I am just blotted a little.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:29 pm
I agree. It's the result of media beat up and being a higher profile character with lots more enemies. Then it become the lynch mob mentality. So many of those who are now keen to put him through the most severe punishment are also those who were emotive with the Livestrong wave. Further, there are those ex-dopers (revealed or unrevealed) who've decided to jump on the bandwagon and join the "bash Lance" brigade, thereby washing their sins.ozzymac wrote:I am confused by everybody's reaction to this.
What has Armstrong done differently to anyone else?
Whilst I agree that Lance needs and will be punished for his deeds, there's a proper course for it.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:30 pm
You are a real individual!Apple wrote:I am with you ozzymac but I am a fan. Let that poor spunk race if he wants.
His punishment should be to train overweight or unmotivated people. He can start with me Not that I am unmotivated or overweight, well maybe I am just blotted a little.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:31 pm
Your multiple posts in this thread has already done the same too. The ability to ignore is an art of Zen!sumgy wrote:All publicity is good publicity.
You have all just done your bit to add to the publicity machine.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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