sogood wrote:sumgy wrote:All publicity is good publicity.
You have all just done your bit to add to the publicity machine.
Your multiple posts in this thread has already done the same too. The ability to ignore is an art of Zen!
Its a swindle!!!

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Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:33 pm
sogood wrote:sumgy wrote:All publicity is good publicity.
You have all just done your bit to add to the publicity machine.
Your multiple posts in this thread has already done the same too. The ability to ignore is an art of Zen!
Postby Apple » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:37 pm
sogood wrote:Apple wrote:I am with you ozzymac but I am a fan. Let that poor spunk race if he wants.![]()
His punishment should be to train overweight or unmotivated people. He can start with me![]()
Not that I am unmotivated or overweight, well maybe I am just blotted a little.
You are a real individual!![]()
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Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:43 pm
sumgy wrote:Its a swindle!!!
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby Metor » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:46 pm
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:50 pm
Metor wrote:He can't compete for a few weeks and he starts freaking out already. Addicted to winning and competing...
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:51 pm
sogood wrote:sumgy wrote:Its a swindle!!!
C'mon, be honest! You just love the circus too, don't you?
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:53 pm
sumgy wrote:Dont be fooled.
It is a swindle.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:57 pm
sogood wrote:sumgy wrote:Dont be fooled.
It is a swindle.
Of course it is, and a big PR campaign! In the meantime, you are still contributing to his Google counter.
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:11 pm
sumgy wrote:I have not mentioned his name once.
But every time you do it adds to the hits found for his name.
That is my theory anyway.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:14 pm
sogood wrote:sumgy wrote:I have not mentioned his name once.
But every time you do it adds to the hits found for his name.
That is my theory anyway.
Google is much smarter than that, and so is forum analytics. You've been pawned!
Postby Xplora » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:29 pm
Postby MarkG » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:07 pm
Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:13 pm
MarkG wrote:Most people's problem with Lance, I believe, is not the fact that he doped, cos face it, during that time it appears almost all the top riders did.
When you look back at guys like Pantani, Ulrich, Ricco, Basso etc, they did the crime, they got caught, most of them aknowledged what they did and moved on. I'm not saying this is acceptable at all, dopers should be wiped from the sport.
However, the thing I believe that causes most people's anguish and anger is the fact that Lance not only took drugs, but he was a bully, he used his swarm of lawyers to attack like pitbulls, he belittled people, and basically his whole ethos during his career was based on the notion that "even tho I'm a doper, I am going to deny it and threaten people's liveleyhood (think Lemond and his bikes) who even dares come at me with anything to the contrary".
The people he owes the biggest apology to tho, are the cancer victims. People who used this false idol as a crutch to lean on. People who not only admired him, but needed him to be the clean cut, drug free cancer survivor he claimed to be ;the people who he looked straight in to the eyes of and preached his clean living lifestyle, which was a complete lie. Those poor people who went from the hospital straight to the bike races to cheer on their hero, defending him to everyone who've since been vindicated.
Livestrong I'm afraid is never gonna be able to distance themselves from his name, as one's been synonymous with the other since he began the foundation.
The whole saga is sad more than anything. The guy spent so much time believing his own lies and living in his self constructed cocoon of deceit and ego that I honestly still don't really think he fully understands the enormity of the situation.
Crocodile tears anyone..
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:29 pm
MarkG wrote:However, the thing I believe that causes most people's anguish and anger is the fact that Lance not only took drugs, but he was a bully, he used his swarm of lawyers to attack like pitbulls, he belittled people, and basically his whole ethos during his career was based on the notion that "even tho I'm a doper, I am going to deny it and threaten people's liveleyhood (think Lemond and his bikes) who even dares come at me with anything to the contrary".
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby Apple » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:43 pm
MarkG wrote:The whole saga is sad more than anything. The guy spent so much time believing his own lies and living in his self constructed cocoon of deceit and ego that I honestly still don't really think he fully understands the enormity of the situation.
Crocodile tears anyone..
Postby jillybean » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:15 pm
Postby gabrielle260 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:31 pm
MarkG wrote:Most people's problem with Lance, I believe, is not the fact that he doped, cos face it, during that time it appears almost all the top riders did.
When you look back at guys like Pantani, Ulrich, Ricco, Basso etc, they did the crime, they got caught, most of them aknowledged what they did and moved on. I'm not saying this is acceptable at all, dopers should be wiped from the sport.
However, the thing I believe that causes most people's anguish and anger is the fact that Lance not only took drugs, but he was a bully, he used his swarm of lawyers to attack like pitbulls, he belittled people, and basically his whole ethos during his career was based on the notion that "even tho I'm a doper, I am going to deny it and threaten people's liveleyhood (think Lemond and his bikes) who even dares come at me with anything to the contrary".
The people he owes the biggest apology to tho, are the cancer victims. People who used this false idol as a crutch to lean on. People who not only admired him, but needed him to be the clean cut, drug free cancer survivor he claimed to be ;the people who he looked straight in to the eyes of and preached his clean living lifestyle, which was a complete lie. Those poor people who went from the hospital straight to the bike races to cheer on their hero, defending him to everyone who've since been vindicated.
Livestrong I'm afraid is never gonna be able to distance themselves from his name, as one's been synonymous with the other since he began the foundation.
The whole saga is sad more than anything. The guy spent so much time believing his own lies and living in his self constructed cocoon of deceit and ego that I honestly still don't really think he fully understands the enormity of the situation.
Crocodile tears anyone..
Postby MarkG » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:46 pm
sogood wrote:MarkG wrote:However, the thing I believe that causes most people's anguish and anger is the fact that Lance not only took drugs, but he was a bully, he used his swarm of lawyers to attack like pitbulls, he belittled people, and basically his whole ethos during his career was based on the notion that "even tho I'm a doper, I am going to deny it and threaten people's liveleyhood (think Lemond and his bikes) who even dares come at me with anything to the contrary".
Standard multi-national corporate business strategy. LA is but an extension of corporate America. No?
Postby jimsheedy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:55 pm
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:10 pm
jimsheedy wrote:The problem with the interview lies at Oprah's feet not Armstrong's. She is a lightweight entertainment host. Not an investigative journalist with the skill to be able to think on their feet and follow a thread and to keep digging to get all the information. She also know nothing about cycling. The most telling thing about Armstrong's contrition or lack thereof is that he chose to be interviewed by Oprah.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:14 pm
Postby jimsheedy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:18 pm
sogood wrote:jimsheedy wrote:The problem with the interview lies at Oprah's feet not Armstrong's. She is a lightweight entertainment host. Not an investigative journalist with the skill to be able to think on their feet and follow a thread and to keep digging to get all the information. She also know nothing about cycling. The most telling thing about Armstrong's contrition or lack thereof is that he chose to be interviewed by Oprah.
Not Oprah's problem and your expectation is not realistic. If she was a hard hitting investigative news woman, LA wouldn't have engaged for the interview.
Postby sogood » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:25 pm
sumgy wrote:And I understand they are friends.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:29 pm
sogood wrote:sumgy wrote:And I understand they are friends.
LA is "friend" even with recent US Presidents. What's new? At that level and being a recent all-American hero, the only people who aren't friend with him are those who have a conflict of interest with him. We all already know who they are.
Postby MarkG » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:36 pm
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