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Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby bengo » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:24 am

I have zipp 101 wheels with ultegra group set. Noise was coming from the rear cassette, on inspection i notice the rear cassette was loose. I took the cogs off and notice the aluminum hub cassette spline was notched badly creating movement with the cogs.
I sent an email to Zipp whom say that there is no solution except going to sram, that it was okay. Problem is too much noise
Anyone got a solution
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby jcjordan » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:01 pm

Zipp are owned by SRAM. Just going to get a more basic hub. Replace with DT or Shimano
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby Dr_Mutley » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:38 pm

Zipp 188 hubs are terrible anyway. U could spend $70 to $100 on a new free hub body (easy to change), or lace in a good hub :-)
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby jacks1071 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:34 pm

bengo wrote:I have zipp 101 wheels with ultegra group set. Noise was coming from the rear cassette, on inspection i notice the rear cassette was loose. I took the cogs off and notice the aluminum hub cassette spline was notched badly creating movement with the cogs.
I sent an email to Zipp whom say that there is no solution except going to sram, that it was okay. Problem is too much noise
Anyone got a solution


Post a picture. Unless its chewed all the way through do the lockring up to 40Nm and it should be fine. If it is all the way through, just order a new freehub from your LBS.

This is exactly why you should use a torque wrench when doing up cassette lockrings.
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby Baldy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:28 pm

Dr_Mutley wrote:Zipp 188 hubs are terrible anyway. U could spend $70 to $100 on a new free hub body (easy to change), or lace in a good hub :-)


What happened to your 188 hub?
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby Dr_Mutley » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:49 pm

Baldy wrote:
Dr_Mutley wrote:Zipp 188 hubs are terrible anyway. U could spend $70 to $100 on a new free hub body (easy to change), or lace in a good hub :-)


What happened to your 188 hub?


I've destroyed two 188 hubs by ripping the spokes away from the flange on the drive side. Both times this resulted in the rim taking big gouges out of the chain stay. Even when 188 hubs are adjusted up well (bearing preload) the lateral deflection from the hubs are nothing short of terrible as well... Just my opinion however...
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby Baldy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:44 pm

Damn, well I can only hope I don't have that problem I guess. Are you a big guy? Being light-ish might help me. There is not much room between the fat chainstays on my Tarmac so it would not take much. I run the pads real close and have no rubbing. Or are you talking about some other kind of flex? I have no idea what lateral deflection from the hub means!
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby Dr_Mutley » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:13 pm

I'm 85kg...
If u put enough watts thru the back wheel with the pads set close u will see some rubbing at some point...
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby biker jk » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:38 am

Baldy wrote:Damn, well I can only hope I don't have that problem I guess. Are you a big guy? Being light-ish might help me. There is not much room between the fat chainstays on my Tarmac so it would not take much. I run the pads real close and have no rubbing. Or are you talking about some other kind of flex? I have no idea what lateral deflection from the hub means!


The Zipp 188 hub flanges were too thin. I believe the newer models have thicker flanges.
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby Dr_Mutley » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:20 pm

biker jk wrote:
Baldy wrote:Damn, well I can only hope I don't have that problem I guess. Are you a big guy? Being light-ish might help me. There is not much room between the fat chainstays on my Tarmac so it would not take much. I run the pads real close and have no rubbing. Or are you talking about some other kind of flex? I have no idea what lateral deflection from the hub means!


The Zipp 188 hub flanges were too thin. I believe the newer models have thicker flanges.


Yeah correct... Version 2 of the 188 hubs have meatier flanges, due to the failure rate of the V1 188s. Both my replacement wheelsets look thicker in the flange, but I'm done with zipp. I'm not taking any chances with damaging my new frame by using their hubs.
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby Baldy » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:02 pm

I'm not sure if mine are V2. They are 2012FC 404 clinchers. Just had a look at the website and it doesn't seem to say. I'm 67kg heading towards 70 so that should help. I changed the cassette recently and had no spline damage. This leads me to theory that I am just pissweak 8) :lol:
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:27 pm

Or your lockring isn't loose...
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Re: Zipp 188 Hub cassette damage

Postby bengo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:34 pm

Its not chewed all the way through. I got the American classic parts from NRG Cycles: Cycles Brisbane

I can see how they help even the pressure accros the cassette hub. Work well

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