Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby doggatas » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:27 am
I love cycling, especially watching it because I know that after cycling for a few years the level of these guys is simply amazing. Now to enjoy watching, you have know a little bit about how cycling works otherwise it could be seen as simply watching someone(many) people riding a bike, riveting TV.
I reckon last nights non-live broadcast had something to do with the fact that Master Chef - The Professionals aired for the first time, this was on at the same time as the TDU - Peoples Choice Criterium, in the view of Nine, whatever they were showing instead of the crit had more of a chance of swaying viewers away from Master Chef than the cycling did, it's all about ratings.
RonK, I am not making excuses I am merely stating the facts. As I said previously it's about ratings, not satisfying the minority.
Genuine question: Can SBS broadcast something Nine has the rights over?
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby RonK » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:36 am
I understood there is some kind of use it or loose rule, which is supposed ensure the channels can't use blocking tactics to prevent others from broadcasting events that they don't broadcast themselves.doggatas wrote:Genuine question: Can SBS broadcast something Nine has the rights over?
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby doggatas » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:49 am
Just looked at the schedule and I can see why it is on GEM (which is FTA) as opposed to Nine................................. Days of our Lives. Imagine the uproar when the regular viewers awake from their early afternoon nap to watch Days of our Lives and find nothing by skinny lycra clad men leisurely riding around the roads of SA. haha.
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby tubby74 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:02 pm
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby AUbicycles » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:16 pm
You answer your own question though what can happen is that SBS broadcast from the village and commentry on the race with licensed video, audio, photos. The race organisers have photographers and provide media with photos and video highlights though also impose restrictions so that their principle broadcaster retains the advantage.doggatas wrote:Genuine question: Can SBS broadcast something Nine has the rights over?
As an example, sometimes in news reports of live sports they show photos rather than footage - these are available and can be purchased quickly when there are no longer exclusive rights to live footage. They may be able to purchase or use "highlight" footage when it becomes available though is limited and rights mean that it can only use for reporting but not for commercial purposes such as marketing whereas the principle broadcaster can.
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby Chuck » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:22 pm
I'll certainly be tuning in.
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby Riggsbie » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:51 pm
I hate Channel 9 !!!!
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby warthog1 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:10 pm
On now btw
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby jimsheedy » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:52 pm
Alex Simmons/RST wrote:
Does anyone know who is actually producing the video feed? Is it Ch 9 or a independent operator as is typically done in Europe? The ASO do it best. The UCI/Olympic event broadcast subsidiary is of lower standard.
Beyond. The same company that does most of the cycling coverage in Australia I think they also produce the TDF package for SBS. The TDU package is produced for cycling Australia or Santos TDU it is then on sold to nine.
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby reefer » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:52 pm
By that reckoning, there are killing cricket too, as they show it live….Riggsbie wrote:Unless you work during the daytime.....then you do not ghetto see the live racing
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:45 pm
fair enough, let's equip all the riders with headlamps and have a night time road raceRiggsbie wrote:Unless you work during the daytime.....then you do not ghetto see the live racing
OK, I understand that some people can afford a TV and not a video recorder, but for those that do have one, how hard can it be to record and watch it whenever you please?
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby jimsheedy » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:38 pm
Also im no nine fan boy. I was very <language> when the cycling wasn't shown live the other night. Also I think 11pm is way too late for the replays.
In criticising the broadcast itself though, you should keep in mind that budget constraints play a major part in production values. Live graphics containing stats are very costly as are extra cameras. It is naive to expect similar production quality as the TDF or any of the major races around the world. With that in mind I reckon the broadcast itself is pretty good.
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby ozzymac » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:45 pm
But I do agree that to show highlights at 11.00pm is ridiculous. Especially when they have channels available to show it on.
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby Lukeyboy » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:52 pm
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:52 pm
?ozzymac wrote:Overall the live broadcast was good. Especially the fact they had propper commentators, which alone was a big improvement on last year.
Same commentators, and IMO they are past their use by date.
Can't you just record it and watch it when you are ready?ozzymac wrote:But I do agree that to show highlights at 11.00pm is ridiculous. Especially when they have channels available to show it on.
It's not like you will miss the highlights if say you watch the last 40-min of the race (which honestly is the only bit of much interest in many of these races anyway), as they do a race highlights/update at times through the coverage anyway to bring people up to speed who may have just tuned in.
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:24 pm
Yay they just started the descent....... and now to an ad break....
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
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