Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
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Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby hotshod » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:45 pm
This week I decided to test it with a drawing pin to see if it was still effective. It was slow to seal and it weeped clear liquid for a while , not the white dot seal that you might expect.
I took both tyres off to further investigate and the Stan's had broken down to white stringy latex and a clearish liquid. This was after 4 months for the rear and 6 months for the front. So I added 30ml of Stans and will do a full clean out when the rear is finished.
I would like to draw out as many comments as possible about other sealant brands and there performance , ...... be it how they seal a puncture or how long they remain effective.
I have converted about 10 sets of wheels for other riders in my group. I originally told them to change or check fluid at 5 months in summer and 7 in winter...... ie April & November.
The drawing pin test is for those with faith........ do it at home !!!!!
Tubeless users step up ......
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby Crawf » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:49 pm
The off the shelf sealants aren't cheap if you're a tinkererer like me.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby twizzle » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:27 pm
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby RunForrestRide » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:23 pm
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby twizzle » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:29 pm
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby wabbs » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:57 pm
I have used Joes sealant but as to the newness of the install I can give no testament to longevity.
Reading the blurb they say that tubeless is worth 12% better rolling resistance??
I can testify to a higher average speed for the same effort but not to that level.
Also have to say they are a more comfy ride than my Michelins they have replaced.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby Stefan_A » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:10 pm
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby jacks1071 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:41 pm
+1 For Joe's Road Racer (when using road tyres with high pressure, Stan's is fine for an MTB).twizzle wrote:Joe's "road racer". A lot thicker than the Stan's, which is more MTB (low pressure) oriented.
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I've just setup a set of Pro-Lite Merano A25W's (24mm wide rim) on tubless. Have run road tubeless before and decided it wasn't worth the effort.
Keen to see if the wider rims change my opinion on road tubeless.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby trailgumby » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:58 pm
I left it for 7 months on some "tubeless ready" XC tyres, and the tyres started leaking out thru the sidewalls and I had a washout on the front on the road as a result. I lost some skin. 'Twas a really dumb manouvre, I had Someone looking after me: 1 minute later and it would have been very much worse.
If you are using full UST tyres, they will be airproof and the sealant is only for puncture protection rather than being an integral part of the air seal.
Thicker sealant makes sense for the much smaller volume of road tyres. Fast sealing is vital - you have much less air to lose before your tyre becomes dangerous.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby old al » Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:53 pm
Anyway, long story short, two cans of Pit Stop later and not a sign of it sealing. absolutely hopeless. Wheel off the bike, twirled it around to get the sealant onto the side wall with no avail. Took delivery of some Tufo Extreme Sealant and tried that. One third of a 50ml bottle into the tyre, twirled it around, pumped it up to 130psi (my racing pressure) and it sealed instantly. No sign of a leak, nothing.
So, for what it's worth, that's my experience with sealants. I now carry some Tufo Extreme and a Co2 bottle when I train on tubulars. But note, tubulars must have a removable valve to use Extreme.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby jacks1071 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:30 am
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby old al » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:29 am
It's comes attached to the Extreme bottle otherwise I would forget it!
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby jacks1071 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:02 am
I have ordered some of it in for my buddy but never used it. Looked like a good alternative to pitstop but a lot slower.
I've used pitstop twice, once on my own tyre and it was a permanent repair - raced the whole season on that tyre.
Once on a buddy's tyre and we only got a good enough seal for him to ride home which about 40psi in the tyre. It did do the job though but he couldn't have raced on it with that pressure and he did have to replace the tyre.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby old al » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:54 pm
Al.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby il padrone » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:25 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby HappyHumber » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:07 pm
I just love that howto. Its just the sort of crazy lengths I'd go to avoid a specific $$ solution. Must try it some time. In the meanwhile I'll just stick to cheap, generic tube sealant from the Auto parts stores in the tubes of my runabout bikes.il padrone wrote:Ghetto tubeless - any tyre, any rim.
Hit me up via the BNA dm; I'll get an alert. If y'know, you know.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby eeksll » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:43 pm
I had a look at that, the sealing tube sits between the tyre bead and rim. Is it not a concern that the tyre could come off?il padrone wrote:Ghetto tubeless - any tyre, any rim.
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Re: Tubeless Sealant Comments and Review
Postby il padrone » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:17 pm
I have no direct experience in doing this so can make limited comments. A friend yesterday reminded me about this. He is using it on his MTB I believe.eeksll wrote:I had a look at that, the sealing tube sits between the tyre bead and rim. Is it not a concern that the tyre could come off?
The technique is described for MTB use, road bikes may be a very different propostion. They describe making a close measure of the gap between tyre bead and rim base, and packing the rim tape to ensure that sealant and air does not 'burp' under side-loads. The rubber tube strip will raise the tyre bead further to make for a more secure fit. MTBs do not run very high pressure, and especially using tubeless - one big advantage of tubeless is the ability to run tyres at 15-20psi and not get pinch flats, with much better traction. At these low pressures, popping the bead off the rim is hardly an issue.
Like I said, roadies wanting to run 120psi for low rolling resistance are another thing entirely.
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