Asthma...
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Asthma...
Postby twizzle » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:22 pm
I've encountered exercise induced asthma on a handful of occasions over the three years (usually a < 5km TT or a 110% crit lap), but this virus I came down with on Christmas day has knocked me for six and I've just finished five days on steroids to bring the wheeze and cough under control. For the first couple of weeks, in the middle of the night I would wake and cough almost to the point of vomiting. The Doctor for the first two visits after Christmas didn't even record the wheeze & ventolin recommendation in the notes. Second doctor (third visit) was obviously pissed about this, but was in a hurry and didn't have time to go into detail other than to say that it wasn't a simple diagnosis. And... that's as far as it's gone.
So - Is this occasional wheezy asthma/severe night-time cough triggered by a virus normal, or am I starting down the slippery slope of preventers / ventolin / steroids etc.? Is this a GP thing, or should I be chasing a referral to someone who will give a damn?
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Re: Asthma...
Postby brentono » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:47 pm
You get no warning, a severe attack can have you not breathing in about 60seconds/and blackout.
Then you had better have someone around to get an ambulance. FME.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby cp123 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:13 pm
Could just be you unable to shake the virus but also sounds like you're not "controlled" as far as controlled goes. Or a completely unrelated thing. My sister's kid has had an uncontrolled cough for the last 6 months and has been to a multitude of doctors and tested for everything from whooping cough to a bad luck virus. He seriously could not talk when he got going and you could see his head get redder and redder. He was exhausted from one week to the next and missed heaps of school.
Unfortunately the big cheese of thoracic medicine in Canberra had a horrendous bike related injury about 6 months back (i'm sure you know who I mean and what happened) but he is improving tremendously and is back working part time. Not operating though.
I'd be pissed with that answer too though. You still don't know where you standard whether you're just exercise asthma or "normal" asthma. What do you take pre exercise? I get it if i went flat knacker too and for a while the docs tried me on Intal as well as everything else as they reckoned that was beneficial if you're just sus when you're exercising.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby trailgumby » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:41 pm
I am starting to form the view the my chronic low-level symptoms are actually allergic rhinitis/postnasal drip.
Suggest you get a full workup done with a specialist. I've seen acute attacks and people do die from time to time ... very important to get it managed and under control.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby twizzle » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:01 pm
Nothing - I've only triggered the 'exercise' type four times, but one of them was the other week when I already had the wheeze/cough. I was told to take 2-5 puffs if I was suffering.cp123 wrote: What do you take pre exercise?
No shortness of breath, I can exercise at 100%... but I cough up phlegm and (recently) have had the worst wheeze when breathing out fully. Since taking 'sone the phlegm and wheeze have backed right off... but I'm feeling a bit "out in the cold" as it were. No issue carrying ventolin, but in two months time I'll be doing the Gunning prologue, and I know I'm going to start coughing about a minute after I cross the line.
Three weeks ago : Maximal Aerobic Power run on the Thursday, 20+ minutes 457W for the last minte... no issue. On the Sunday, 1km CompuTrainer TT - 1 minute and 20 seconds after a brief warmup... cough went from being niggling to "I have EIA" within a minute.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby cp123 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:30 pm
If you're that niggly (not YOU, but your problem if you get my drift... ) i wouldn't have been happy with potentially being blown off by the doc either.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:29 pm
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Re: Asthma...
Postby sogood » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:51 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:03 pm
Two weeks on and was still the same and the Doc said, I don't think it is Asthma and put me onto Spiriva. After a month, my lung capacity
was 87% and two weeks later was 97%.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby sogood » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:15 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:02 pm
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Asthma...
Postby twizzle » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:24 pm
Regular medical centre, but my regular (good) doctor is away and I'm at the mercy of locums. But... it was my regular who originally suggested ventolin years ago when I had what I thought was just a chest infection. No diagnosis, the doctor I saw last week didn't want to discuss that, I can't remember the exact wording but my understanding was "not my area". Obviously, the previous doctor not including the notes didn't help... I walked in and said "look at my history since Christmas", and all that was written was "cough".sogood wrote:Given your description of recurring episodes of "something", it's not clear if you have been formally diagnosed as asthmatic or were just treated symptomatically. Irrespective, this is clearly an issue that a competent GP can correctly investigate, diagnose and treat. The key is to find competency and stay with the same doctor for the duration. Changing doctors will just get you bits and pieces of nothing. Then at your GP's discretion, it may or may not be appropriate to be referred to a respiratory physician. But just from your description, it doesn't sound particularly complicated.
Sounds like I should wait till my regular doctor is back and schedule some time.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby brentono » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:22 pm
so I was informed from my Consultant Thoracic Physician.
And this sounds familiar (to me)... and this is how it goes (as described)
http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/news/ ... torypage=0After he woke on Tuesday night, she tried to comfort Jayden,
giving him his Ventolin puffer which he inhaled through his spacer, as prescribed by their doctor.
“He sort of went a little bit funny,” she told The Daily Advertiser.
“It is hard to describe.
“The next thing I knew he was falling to the ground. He looked like he was asleep.”
Ms Britt quickly realised Jayden was not breathing.
Calling for an ambulance, she said Jayden began to turn blue around the mouth.
Sad for this young bloke (RIP), and condolences to his family.
Sometimes you don't get a second chance. Sometimes you never know.
Just to keep you informed.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby twizzle » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:33 pm
I'm all-clear at the moment, still haven't caught up with the regular doctor, but was still phlegm-y for a good two weeks after finishing the steroids, it's only the last week that I've felt like I'm finally over it. Unfortunately... fitness down the toilet, along with motivation.
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Re: Asthma...
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Re: Asthma...
Postby toolonglegs » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:44 pm
I thought they were becoming more and more common but never really bad, I have had two good friends die from asthma so have seen how horrible it can be. I tried stopping any medication for a while ( puffer ) and the episodes stopped over time. It would be a year or so since my last attack... but I was never so bad that I really need meds to live, so wasn't a big issue trying with out them, but as the attacks were becoming more common I thought I would try with out for a while.
I do still have a pile of puffers if needed but they will end up in the bin in the next year or so.
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Re: Asthma...
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Re: Asthma...
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Re: Asthma...
Postby cp123 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:43 pm
All i want is to be able to survive winter including riding my bike, going outside, doing other sporty things between April and October and not have to think about every other breath i take. Is that too much to ask? peak flow 280 this morning...
I had one good doctor, but she retired. She rode and "got it" about what i wanted out of life. Should I have to hear "well you'll have to give up cycling over winter" time and time again??. Here, take more prednisolone yet again..." That surely isn't the answer and I'm not prepared to accept it as mine. I don't want to blob around on public transport while i can ride my bike for free in a shorter time. i don't want to have to pray the phone doesn't ring at work for the first half hour less i can't have a simple conversation with a customer. i would like other people to think that i am not blowing black death all over them each and every time i speak to them.
In the past i've dealt with it - well, i guess i've had to. but now it's pithing me off.
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Re: Asthma...
Postby matagi » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:53 pm
Also, have you seen an asthma specialist recently?
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