Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
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Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby BoardRider » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:09 pm
There was a few riders who took unnecessary risks.This type of behaviour has seemed to have increase this year. One incident I saw was a cyclist passing a patient motorist on the wrong side of the road across double lines on a bend.Only to cut the vehicle off because of oncoming traffic forcing him to swerve and brake to the left, pushing a cyclist passing on left on to dirt to avoid contact.Both cyclists looked the at driver like he was the dangerous one, when he really kept them both safe.
I notice a policemen writing out an infringement notice,maybe that is why we had number plates/stickers .I guess I am a bit disappointed too.
No longer do I think as cyclist we have the high ground.Great ride lots of descending good fun.
What do others think of the behaviour of other riders?
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby jcjordan » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:20 pm
The problem arises when you put a large number of riders in a limited solace, who have little or no concept of bunch riding and on the whole don't want to be kept up by slower riders so they missrepresent their speed.
You then get the small element which hate the 'racer' element who see the ride as a opportunity to set a personal goal time. These people seem to always find a way to accidentally hold up the faster riders whom they think are not participating properly in a community event.
Best thing to do is avoid it completely.
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby BoardRider » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:08 am
I agree with your statements, I found that riders instead of waiting for each other to pass (be held up) push faster riders wider onto the wrong side of the road. Obliviously faster/surging riders become frustrated.jcjordan wrote:I stopped doing this ride for a number of reasons the not least is the wider behavior of the masses.
The problem arises when you put a large number of riders in a limited solace, who have little or no concept of bunch riding and on the whole don't want to be kept up by slower riders so they missrepresent their speed.
You then get the small element which hate the 'racer' element who see the ride as a opportunity to set a personal goal time. These people seem to always find a way to accidentally hold up the faster riders whom they think are not participating properly in a community event.
Best thing to do is avoid it completely.
My wife said to me this morning that she felt it was too risky to ride in these events anymore.There were only actually a few incidents but many near misses.
May I congratulate the police on doing a great job in difficult circumstances
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby macca33 » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:44 pm
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby boss » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:23 pm
After reading both your posts several times, I have no idea what either of you just said.BoardRider wrote:I agree with your statements, I found that riders instead of waiting for each other to pass (be held up) push faster riders wider onto the wrong side of the road. Obliviously faster/surging riders become frustrated.jcjordan wrote:I stopped doing this ride for a number of reasons the not least is the wider behavior of the masses.
The problem arises when you put a large number of riders in a limited solace, who have little or no concept of bunch riding and on the whole don't want to be kept up by slower riders so they missrepresent their speed.
You then get the small element which hate the 'racer' element who see the ride as a opportunity to set a personal goal time. These people seem to always find a way to accidentally hold up the faster riders whom they think are not participating properly in a community event.
Best thing to do is avoid it completely.
My wife said to me this morning that she felt it was too risky to ride in these events anymore.There were only actually a few incidents but many near misses.
May I congratulate the police on doing a great job in difficult circumstances
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby fixedlegs2012 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:08 pm
As far as I've heard only two reported incidents involving medical assistance. Thats pretty good for 6000 riders.
You have to expect on a organised ride that you are riding with a mix of riders. So ride accordingly.
Don't take risks if you don't want to.
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby you cannot be sirrus » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:50 pm
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby Jesmol » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:34 pm
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby Trev Campbell » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:12 pm
"I get paid to hurt other people, how good is that?"
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby boss » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:21 pm
Yeah I noticed that on RLC a few weekends ago. Big, big packs of riders (3-4 abreast) holding up cars when they could easily disperse and let the car pass.Jesmol wrote:(hint just because you can ride two abreast, doesn't mean you should)
And this was heading up hills maybe 20-25kmph max speed. So it would have been very annoying waiting behind a pack of riders for several kilometers.
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby Daccordi Rider » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:34 pm
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby boss » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:37 pm
Daccordi Rider wrote: And don't even get me started on people riding 2 abreast up the freeway bike path, earphones in.
hate those jerks! drives me insane.
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby Ross » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:24 pm
I have also attended another participation event that was safe; that was the Amy's Gran Fondo in Lorne (Great Ocean Rd). When submitting your entry you are asked to nominate an approximate speed you think you will average for the ride and then put into one of I think 4 categories, so you are then riding with people of similar speed and hopefully ability. It's not a perfect solution because you still get some riders who get their ambitions mixed up with their abilities and can only hold their nominated speed for a couple of kms before blowing up and becoming a slow moving road hazard. But you don't get hundreds of riders like that, only a couple. Why can't Bupa Challenge (and other similar rides) have thse different speed categories? Until they do, I won't be entering.
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby MichaelB » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:58 am
Exactly the reason (have experienced it multiple times) that I no longer ride these type of 'events'. The ride is dangerous because of the actions of a few, and I'd rather ride by myself.Ross wrote:I've been to 2 TDUs and haven't ridden the Bupa Challenge because of the reports of sketchy riding. I have done other similar 'participation rides' and experienced similar sketchy/dangerous riding.
They sort of do ask that people do this, but everyone ignores it. Even in Amy's ride they do this, but again, people ignore it because they either don't know or don't care.Ross wrote:I have also attended another participation event that was safe; that was the Amy's Gran Fondo in Lorne (Great Ocean Rd). When submitting your entry you are asked to nominate an approximate speed you think you will average for the ride and then put into one of I think 4 categories, so you are then riding with people of similar speed and hopefully ability. It's not a perfect solution because you still get some riders who get their ambitions mixed up with their abilities and can only hold their nominated speed for a couple of kms before blowing up and becoming a slow moving road hazard. But you don't get hundreds of riders like that, only a couple. Why can't Bupa Challenge (and other similar rides) have thse different speed categories? Until they do, I won't be entering.
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby jcjordan » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:32 am
Firstly it's fully closed roads which give everyone more room to maneuver and no fear of oncoming traffic.
More importantly it is treated like a race. The caliber of rider skill and knowledge in pack riding is far greater. Plus you don't get the plotters whose aim is just to finish and expected everyone else to have the same view.
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby boss » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:15 am
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Re: Rider Behaviour in the BUPA Challenge ride
Postby MichaelB » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:50 pm
Wasn't my experience on the 2012 ride.boss wrote:FWIW Ride Like Crazy wasn't bad at all. Stick close-ish to the front and you don't have to deal with too many idiots until you get to Gorge Road, where you start catching people who only did the Woodside -> Unley leg of the journey. And even then, I think I only had one person who was unknowingly hogging the road.
Saw numerous stupidity examples prior to Gorge Rd, and then saw riders all over Gorge Rd (including over the centreline) and Police passing on mpotorbikes not doing anything about it.
That was the last straw for me.
I wrote them a nice email expalining the issues and the response was very much like a "meh".
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