Should I make a complaint?
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Should I make a complaint?
Postby KonaCommuter » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:38 pm
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby MarkG » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:47 pm
I'm all for cyclists being looked after, but c'mon, it's getting to the point when even I think there's too much whining.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Dan » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:47 pm
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby KonaCommuter » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:54 pm
Dan wrote:Did you mean to turn left, or was your original intention to go straight ahead?
Straight ahead
It's the safest route for me to get home
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Dan » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:59 pm
In that case I'd be a little cranky, crack a Friday arvo beer and use a different courier company the next time something needs sending.KonaCommuter wrote:Dan wrote:Did you mean to turn left, or was your original intention to go straight ahead?
Straight ahead
It's the safest route for me to get home
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Red Rider » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:02 pm
But you went left? I don't quite understand.KonaCommuter wrote:Dan wrote:Did you mean to turn left, or was your original intention to go straight ahead?
Straight ahead
It's the safest route for me to get home
If you were going straight on then I would have moved in front of the dual-cab.
It looks like that intersection inadvertently encourages drivers to cut cyclists off.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:04 pm
LATE EDIT: The van driver IS required to give way to any vehicle in the lane he is crossing RR so that's another offence...
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby KonaCommuter » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:09 pm
Red Rider wrote:But you went left? I don't quite understand.KonaCommuter wrote:Dan wrote:Did you mean to turn left, or was your original intention to go straight ahead?
Straight ahead
It's the safest route for me to get home
If you were going straight on then I would have moved in front of the dual-cab.
It looks like that intersection inadvertently encourages drivers to cut cyclists off.
There's more footage where I tried to catch up for a chat about how I didn't appreciate his driving. Note that he didn't indicate otherwise I'd have hung back because it's been my experience here that drivers do not acknowledge the ASL and will do exactly as this driver did.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Red Rider » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:13 pm
Fair enough, what a numpty they were. Off in a world of their own!KonaCommuter wrote:There's more footage where I tried to catch up for a chat about how I didn't appreciate his driving. Note that he didn't indicate otherwise I'd have hung back because it's been my experience here that drivers do not acknowledge the ASL and will do exactly as this driver did.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby darkelf921 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:27 pm
Take a couple of days to think about it. If you still feel the same way about it, then go to your local police station to report it. According to the Qld laws, you were in the right and the driver wasn't. However, is it worth you sitting at a police station for about half an hour to make the complaint? If, in a few days time the answer is yes, then go and make sure you're prepared with a statement already written out, the Google Maps printout of where the incident occurred and multiple formats of the video footage. Most police computers cannot play MP4 or MOV format videos, as I found out. So take it in the following formats to make sure they can play it easily the first time, MP4, MOV, AVI and WMV formats. The quicker they can view it, the more likely they will attend to it.KonaCommuter wrote:Right now I'm quite angry about this but perhaps over the weekend I'll chill out?
If this all sounds too much, then I suggest you simply write an email to the courier company and point them to the YouTube clip
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Bentnose » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:24 pm
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Snagdog » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:38 pm
And a lot of the times it's unintentional, just poor vision, lack of anticipation, poor driving skill, poor decision making, driving impaired, inexperienced, old age ......the list goes on
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby sogood » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:54 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby g-boaf » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:33 pm
Sogood has some decent suggestions.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby high_tea » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:44 pm
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Howzat » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:50 pm
Now, exactly where to claim the lane is complicated by the ute's position waiting on the bike lane - which is why you didn't proceed to the front of the intersection.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby sumgy » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:04 pm
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Alistair » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:04 pm
Even if the van was going straight ahead, waiting on the other side of the ute gives you much more control.
Just slip through the gap and put yourself in the straight ahead lane next time.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby Mustang » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:34 pm
Ride in the gutter (around intersections & roundabouts) & you will be treated as such, as reported above take the lane & make your intention positive.Alistair wrote:You need to put yourself in front and to the right of the car indicating that it is turning left. It isn't rocket science. Winging won't achieve anything, and surely it would be common sense to avoid any situation that requires a courier to ever give way?
Even if the van was going straight ahead, waiting on the other side of the ute gives you much more control.
Just slip through the gap and put yourself in the straight ahead lane next time.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby London Boy » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:51 pm
Chill. It really isn't worth the grief. If it happens again, same courier co, email them with a link to the video and point out the danger.KonaCommuter wrote:Right now I'm quite angry about this but perhaps over the weekend I'll chill out?
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby frodo » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:28 pm
I agree totally - I would have waited behind . To me you have gone up the left hand side when you should wait behind. If I was in car I would have been angry with youBakks wrote:Why would you ride up next to the car? Why not just wait behind it to avoid an issue like this and potentially pissing off a motorist who then ends up stuck behind you when they no doubt just passed you? Genuine question, not trying to stir the pot.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby sogood » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:47 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Should I make a complaint?
Postby roobab » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:53 pm
1. The best option was for you to get in front of the car to his right, signal and leave room for him to go left.
2. Move in a bit in front of the van and stick out your right hand so he know what you want to do. Most drivers are courteous and will give you the room.
3. Be patient and wait for traffic to clear before moving off.
In all cases riding defensively and being patient is the solution.
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