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obscured numberplate
Postby filip » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:54 pm
Happy to have contributed to the safety of our roads.
Worthwile getting a rta approved bike rack numberplate at $38
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby Ozkaban » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:07 pm
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby RonK » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:13 pm
Not to mention the demerit points. I got a Qld accessory plate for that very reason - they can be ordered online and may you save a lot more than they cost.filip wrote:I got booked the other day because my bike rack and bike 'obscured' the numberplate. No discussion, just a $397 fine.
Happy to have contributed to the safety of our roads.
Worthwile getting a rta approved bike rack numberplate at $38
BTW, don't be tempted to make your own - that is a more serious offence than having you plate obscured (in Qld at least).
It's also a good idea to attach a white led lamp to illuminate it if you are driving at night.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby WyvernRH » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:14 pm
Don't try moving the car plate onto the rack or the old colour printed copy of the plate, this is still illegal (in NSW at least)
If the bikes are 'covering' any of your lights or indicators they can do you for that too.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby gorilla monsoon » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:28 pm
Life's a bitch sometimes.filip wrote:I got booked the other day because my bike rack and bike 'obscured' the numberplate. No discussion, just a $397 fine.
Happy to have contributed to the safety of our roads.
Worthwile getting a rta approved bike rack numberplate at $38
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby biker jk » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:40 pm
This just reflects the low regard for cyclists. They're expendable.birdbrain wrote:$397 seems a bit harsh when the fine for opening a car door on a cyclist in Victoria is $352.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby wellington_street » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:50 pm
I thought this was fairly common knowledge and/or sense? (might be just the fact that from a young age my family car always had one)filip wrote:I got booked the other day because my bike rack and bike 'obscured' the numberplate. No discussion, just a $397 fine.
Happy to have contributed to the safety of our roads.
Worthwile getting a rta approved bike rack numberplate at $38
Another thing you might want to be wary of is that it is illegal to have an empty bike rack on the back of your vehicle while driving. If it isn't being used to carry bikes then it must be taken off.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby Ozkaban » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:15 pm
I've wondered about this. How do you transport a bike rack (say to pick up a cyclist) without a bike if *the bike rack* doesn't fit in the car?wellington_street wrote: Another thing you might want to be wary of is that it is illegal to have an empty bike rack on the back of your vehicle while driving. If it isn't being used to carry bikes then it must be taken off.
Edited for clarity.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby outnabike » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:21 pm
I just neatly inscribed a piece of white metal with a black texta , drilled a couple of holes and wired it to the out side of the bike. Mind you, that is still only for daylight hours though as it doesn't have a number plate light or any thing. Never had a problem in 20 years.
It's a fair cop really I suppose, but many folk just don't realise they are covering the plate up.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby jcjordan » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:59 pm
Only in Victoria. I would love to know why?wellington_street wrote:
Another thing you might want to be wary of is that it is illegal to have an empty bike rack on the back of your vehicle while driving. If it isn't being used to carry bikes then it must be taken off.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:05 pm
You know how the Govt views VicPlod traffic section these days, ChaChing...jcjordan wrote:Only in Victoria. I would love to know why?wellington_street wrote:
Another thing you might want to be wary of is that it is illegal to have an empty bike rack on the back of your vehicle while driving. If it isn't being used to carry bikes then it must be taken off.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby wellington_street » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:08 pm
Use a trailer? I'm not sure, I've never had that issue myself. They are fairly small so should fit in most cars.Ozkaban wrote:I've wondered about this. How do you transport a bike rack (say to pick up a cyclist) without a bike if it doesn't fit in the car?wellington_street wrote: Another thing you might want to be wary of is that it is illegal to have an empty bike rack on the back of your vehicle while driving. If it isn't being used to carry bikes then it must be taken off.
thanks for clarifying - not sure where OP is from. I assume it is seen as a safety issue in a crash situation? (guessing)Only in Victoria. I would love to know why?
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby RonK » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:19 pm
Nope - in Qld too. I've been given a warning ticket by Qld Police.jcjordan wrote:Only in Victoria. I would love to know why?wellington_street wrote:
Another thing you might want to be wary of is that it is illegal to have an empty bike rack on the back of your vehicle while driving. If it isn't being used to carry bikes then it must be taken off.
And making your own plate is also an offense attracting 40 penalty units.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby il padrone » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:23 pm
Rule 405 - I'd check your local state rules. It may go beyond Victoria.jcjordan wrote:Only in Victoria. I would love to know why?wellington_street wrote:
Another thing you might want to be wary of is that it is illegal to have an empty bike rack on the back of your vehicle while driving. If it isn't being used to carry bikes then it must be taken off.
405 Vehicles must not be driven with an empty bicycle carrier attached
A person must not drive on a road a motor vehicle that has an empty bicycle carrier attached to the rear of the vehicle.
Penalty: 3 penalty units
I believe this is to avoid more severe damage and possible personal injury occurring in any nose to tail collision. I did believe it was also illegal to park the vehicle with a bike rack attached due to the risk of injury by people unwittingly walking into it. I can relate to this more and would not like to cause some elderly lady to crack her head on my bike rack. I always take my rack off, it's a simple spanner job.
Buy yourself a bike rack that does fit in the boot. Most that I have used do. The large Thule et al bumper-style, wheel-supporting racks might be exempted as they are below grill height.Ozkaban wrote: I've wondered about this. How do you transport a bike rack (say to pick up a cyclist) without a bike if it doesn't fit in the car?
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby twowheels » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:55 pm
no i don't have an amazing memory, i still keep hearing about it!
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby trailgumby » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:08 pm
twowheels wrote:my father got pinged in about 1970 because his tow ball was obscuring the middle two characters of his number plate.
no i don't have an amazing memory, i still keep hearing about it!
I hope that's not on a 6 minute rotation - that would be sad.
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby find_bruce » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:13 pm
A good tip I heard for night driving was to set your bike light up to shine on the plate- saves wiring up a separate light
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby il padrone » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:18 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby coyote » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:50 pm
Not hard, just mount your bike hanging off the bike rack with the front wheel dragging on ground.il padrone wrote:I'd have to keep my front wheel spinning at >5kmh to do that
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby Howzat » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:01 pm
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Postby oxonabike » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:04 pm
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby bychosis » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:15 am
I have also seen an empty bike rack with a home made plate on it... that didn't match the car. Just asking for trouble
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Re: obscured numberplate
Postby Ozkaban » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:38 am
I've only just bought a rack that doesn't... It's a Thule 9106 which clips onto the back and has a platform to support two bikes. I think it might fit in the rear hatch (corolla) if nothing else was there and I was patient. One nice thing though is the platform folds up vertically flush with the rack and can be held there with the top tube clamp so if you walked into it you would have to really trying to. The other reason I bought the rack is that it's specifically designed to hold the bikes higher than the numberplate/lights thus not obscuring them. The trade off is wind resistance but it's not that bad.il padrone wrote: Buy yourself a bike rack that does fit in the boot. Most that I have used do. The large Thule et al bumper-style, wheel-supporting racks might be exempted as they are below grill height.
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