Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
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Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Krank » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:01 pm
what is the equivalent size for Australian men size for the M and L size?
how do i choose the right model with the correct width for my sit bones.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby TDC » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:24 pm
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Krank » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:39 pm
unfortuntaley, that link and the other links inside does not help me trying to link sitbone dims and waist size.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby AKO » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:40 pm
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Krank » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:43 pm
what is your waist size that you order to ?
how does this sizing relate to the uk or usa sizing noted on the smp site?
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby AKO » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:26 am
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Krank » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:57 am
how does your jeans size at 102 translate into the seat sizing for the smp selle?
why did you choose the dynamic over the composit?
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby sumgy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:11 am
Seems to me that every time I read about people who have done it the majority sit at 143mm.
Read this Steve Hogg thread which will tell you about his experience with most of the models.
From my research there the Dynamic is the one that he uses mostly.
From my personal experience the Dynamic and the Composit feel similar although the Composit is slightly narrower and shorter.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Krank » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:23 am
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby sumgy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:54 pm
Absoultely no problem .Krank wrote:your thoughts on the composit for 100km rides?
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Maybe prefer the Dynamic?
But that is me and who knows for you.
Even if I knew a sit bone width I would give you the same answer.
Test ride one if you can.
Where are you based?
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Postby mjd » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:27 pm
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Krank » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:07 pm
is 102 a M or L or S or XL in the smp saddle sizing table??
i am based in arnhem land, jabiru and ride on the open hwy currently with a bianchi 928 and a brookes saddle with titanium rails.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby sumgy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:38 pm
In my case I am a 87cm (36") waist so no idea what that means vs a S, M, L or XL.Krank wrote:my sit bones are measured at 130mm.
is 102 a M or L or S or XL in the smp saddle sizing table??
i am based in arnhem land, jabiru and ride on the open hwy currently with a bianchi 928 and a brookes saddle with titanium rails.
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102cm = 40", which has no bearing whatsoever on your sit bone width IMO.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby sumgy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:43 pm
Which brooks?Krank wrote:my sit bones are measured at 130mm.
is 102 a M or L or S or XL in the smp saddle sizing table??
i am based in arnhem land, jabiru and ride on the open hwy currently with a bianchi 928 and a brookes saddle with titanium rails.
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I have a Brooks which I find as comfortable but they are awful for setback vs my SMP's.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Krank » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:04 pm
what is setback and how is it better on you smp?
what about the full carbon smp saddles - i don't read many reviews on these ones - how would they perform as opposed to the coposite and the dynamic?
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby sumgy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:08 pm
Basically I can push my SMP further back on the rails vs my Brooks to get it in the position I want.Krank wrote:SWALLOW LIMITED EDITION
what is setback and how is it better on you smp?
what about the full carbon smp saddles - i don't read many reviews on these ones - how would they perform as opposed to the coposite and the dynamic?
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Read Steve's blog for his opinion on the Carbon model.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Krank » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:28 pm
how much setback do u have and length of stem?
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby sumgy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:34 pm
Setback is completely individual to the rider.Krank wrote:thanks sumgy.
how much setback do u have and length of stem?
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Read this:
Go to Steve Hogg's blog and then read these posts, in this order:
Premise
Saddle height
Saddle set back
If you want to get fancy after that read:
Arch support
Wedging
Shimming
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Nobody » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:40 pm
It relates to how short the useable rails are which doesn't allow the saddle to go back far enough. Seatpost setback can help but with only to a limited degree. Small frame seat tube angles become important for Brooks use.Krank wrote:what is setback and how is it better on you smp?
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby sumgy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:45 pm
Does not matter how small or big the frame is actually.Nobody wrote:It relates to how short the useable rails are which doesn't allow the saddle to go back far enough. Seatpost setback can help but with only to a limited degree. Small frame seat tube angles become important for Brooks use.Krank wrote:what is setback and how is it better on you smp?
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My Blacksheep is a 25" ETT and I am still maxed out.
Would love an extra 10mm of useable rail.
The short useable rail is the only thing I really dont like about the Brooks.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby master6 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:47 pm
I suggest that you have a close look at previous posts by Krank.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Nobody » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:52 pm
OK, but what is the STA of the Blacksheep? What is the setback of your seatpost? Frame STA is often associated with frame type as most road bikes have steeper STAs. 75 to 73 degree STA should give a couple of cm at the saddle.sumgy wrote:Does not matter how small or big the frame is actually.
My Blacksheep is a 25" ETT and I am still maxed out.
Would love an extra 10mm of useable rail.
The short useable rail is the only thing I really dont like about the Brooks.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby ironhanglider » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:55 pm
Sit bones are just that, bones. Waist measurements incorporate a lot of 'soft tissue' as well and are entirely irrelevant. To make matters worse the shape of the bones can vary dramatically between people so the dimensions at the top of the pelvis where the measurement is usually taken from, don't mean anything in relation to the dimensions of where they are in contact with the saddle.
Saddles are very much a personal matter, someone else's dream saddle might well be an instrument of torture for you. To make matters worse even the right saddle in the wrong position is uncomfortable so a test ride might not tell the whole story. If SMP are marketing theirs based on some formula then it is a crock. If it was that easy then you could just walk into a shop and buy the perfect saddle. Finding the perfect saddle is a quest suitable for Arthurian knights, some people get lucky and find one early, some never find one, and most people give up when they find one that is 'good enough'. Tensioned leather saddles often suit people because they will reshape themselves to suit their owner over time. However they do have their drawbacks in care/maintenance and positioning.
I'll go out on a limb and guess that your Brooks is a Ti Swallow. I like them, as do many others and I hope that it is at least good enough for you.
Cheers,
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby sumgy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:56 pm
It is an MTB. Would be worse on the roadie.Nobody wrote:OK, but what is the STA of the Blacksheep? What is the setback of your seatpost? It also depends on frame type as most road bikes have steeper STAs. 75 to 73 degree STA should give a couple of cm at the saddle.sumgy wrote:Does not matter how small or big the frame is actually.
My Blacksheep is a 25" ETT and I am still maxed out.
Would love an extra 10mm of useable rail.
The short useable rail is the only thing I really dont like about the Brooks.
Probably unuseable.
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Re: Seat Sizing for Australian Male - SMP Selle Saddle
Postby Nobody » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:58 pm
Why would he bother playing games? He'll just put people off side. Then if he really needs help in the future, the help may not be forthcoming.master6 wrote:Come in suckers.....Krank is playing his game again
I suggest that you have a close look at previous posts by Krank.
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