I think they provide a bit more resistance to any wind in the perpendicular orientation.wellington_street wrote:I have always wondered why those temporary fencing footings are installed perpendicular to the fence. They are a massive trip hazard when used adjacent to the footpath, especially one that is narrowed. can't understand why they aren't rotated 90 degrees to be parallel to the fence - they are still perfectly functional that way.
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Postby wellington_street » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:29 am
Good point. I wonder if the trip hazard has even been recognised though as part of risk assessments?jasonlheath wrote:I think they provide a bit more resistance to any wind in the perpendicular orientation.wellington_street wrote:I have always wondered why those temporary fencing footings are installed perpendicular to the fence. They are a massive trip hazard when used adjacent to the footpath, especially one that is narrowed. can't understand why they aren't rotated 90 degrees to be parallel to the fence - they are still perfectly functional that way.
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Postby fixed » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:52 pm
Well done for reporting the fault, and well done Ed for following up and ensuring the private developer was brought back into compliance.
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Postby rolandp » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:56 am
Great minds think alike. Mirror suggested when the area was first closed off, unfortunately suggestion not acted upon at this time.Karati wrote:The intersecting path from the overpass onto the main path heading down towards the narrows is still super dangerous though. Even a mirror mounted on a pole on the freeway side guard rail would help people joining get out safely and keep people coming down safer.
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Postby dampier » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:30 pm
If anyone goes past, can they check it out. It could be due to subsidence from the construction next door.
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Postby eldavo » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:49 pm
Hard to avoid in the moment it is dug away before retainer is placed, it is weakened.
Council (edit, main roads) requires construction insurance to cover damage like this, and they should have surveyed the condition prior.
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Postby rolandp » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:00 pm
General comment, slow down if you use this location as this is very poor condition at the moment.
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Postby BrownBike » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:22 am
"A Perth council committee has refused to endorse the end of a ban on cyclists using the Mount Street Overpass – even though the ban is rarely observed and the city itself has nominated the route as a major cycle link to the CBD."
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Postby rolandp » Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:18 am
Can't work out why it wasn't moved at the committee meeting except it shows that the council isn't committed to the city of perth bike plan which has been approved and needs to be auctioned.
Thanks for passing on the link.
Ps saw that crack in the psp. Will post photo later.
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Postby rolandp » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:16 am
At least the area has been swept and the cones are no longer there, but that is a big crack.
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Postby stealthbike » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:09 pm
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results" - Winston Churchill
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Postby rolandp » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:30 pm
The worst bit though was the trip home:
Someone (or the developers) have written 1/2 path closed. The photo potentially doesn't show it, but there are now those orange things on both sides of the PSP so both directions are effected with no-one getting right of way as far as I'm aware.
Very poor.
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Postby rolandp » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:28 am
It is more like the Princeton Estate closure. That one lasted almost a year.eldavo wrote:Shaping up like the City of Stirling travelling circus water hose saga thread, except Halo on Mount is cocking up in a much more dangerous higher traffic area. Laughable til someone gets bitten and its too late.
Unfortunately this is the second half-path closure, on the northern section, the other at Market St. Nothing like climbing under trees and navigating around these obstructions to keep the heart pumping.
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Postby roller » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:31 pm
exactly!Baalzamon wrote:That is ridiculous. Close half the path and I know what that downhill is like... Where are the traffic marshals to stop start cyclists/pedestrians
would love to see them try this on a major road and see how long til there was a multi-car pile up.
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Postby Rusty6149 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:25 pm
They either need to close the path, and divert (though who knows where to.. not many options.. maybe over the footbridge and down Spring street), or have traffic controllers at both ends.
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Postby CycleSnail » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:02 pm
Mainroads apparently were on site this morning, and closing the path was discussed, but opposed by Mainroads (lack of alternative routes).
Instead they are tying to fix the path in the next few days, perhaps by Thursday, but before the weekend, and hope that all the signage and chicanes etc will slow people to a safe speed.
I think there is also talk about having traffic management during peak times.
It appears that some people were very active at raising the issue ......
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Postby roller » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:28 pm
that should fix everything.
i chuckle to myself thinking if the same sort of slap-dash, couldn't care less attitude was applied to roadworks somewhere and there was a sign telling drivers to
"GET OUT AND PUSH YOUR CAR"
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Postby CycleSnail » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:41 pm
This is a tricky spot, and was difficult at the best of times. Would it have been better, in your opinion, to close the path for a few days?roller wrote:"FOOTPATH CLOSED" has now been replaced by "CYCLISTS DISMOUNT"
that should fix everything.
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