Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
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Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby MarkG » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:21 pm
Obviously the cyclist thought that my wife's indicator meant nothing, and she was going to go straight, so decided why bother waiting. The fact she was stopped at the lights didn't enter his pea brain I guess.
He has left a lovely dent on the back bumper, and said cyclist cut his self up in the process.
My wife, being the considerate person she is AND IN THE RIGHT getts out to see he's ok. He's busted up, and obviously aware of the fact he is totally at fault, and dented my wife's car, says he's fine, declines to take her number, and beats a hasty retreat. No apology, nothing.
If anyone knows something, or hears something, please let me know. I'm now forced to pay for the repairs myself as it's not worth going thru insurance, and Main Roads told my wife there's only live camera feeds there, and nothing else (which I find strange) to identify this tool.
We all know that if the situation was reversed, and my wife had backed in to him, there would be an outcry.
Don't let me be the one who finds you mate, cos I am not as forgiving as my wife..
My wife's description, cyclist mid - late 40s on a yellow and black 'racing' bike.
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby clydesmcdale » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:55 pm
Just have to look at a segment in the lead up to the incident, filter by date, filter to male only. Look at a few rides and see if you have any luck.
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby Baalzamon » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:58 pm
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Postby MarkG » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:02 pm
Being the wife of a cyclist, she is always totally aware and respectful of cyclists, and this really upset her, which now means of course, I have to suffer ....
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby MyNameIsNoone » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:03 pm
Just wondered where the law stands on this point. Obviously as a cyclist there's no mandatory insurance, but is the rider still (legally) liable for accidental damage like this?
I'm hoping the answer is yes, but........
(And I also find it very very hard to believe that the traffic cams don't back up to some storage facility for at least a brief period. That seems ludicrous)
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby Summernight » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:18 pm
Yes - civil property damage. That's not the official term for it but it'll do.MyNameIsNoone wrote:Just wondered where the law stands on this point. Obviously as a cyclist there's no mandatory insurance, but is the rider still (legally) liable for accidental damage like this?
I'm hoping the answer is yes, but.......
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Postby Ozkaban » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:22 pm
having insurance or not does not change your liability - it is simply you selling the risk to another entity.MyNameIsNoone wrote:Just wondered where the law stands on this point. Obviously as a cyclist there's no mandatory insurance, but is the rider still (legally) liable for accidental damage like this?
The cyclist caused the accident - they're 100% liable for the dame caused.
Edit: for clarity (dunno if it worked...)
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:32 pm
Summernight wrote:Yes - civil property damage. That's not the official term for it but it'll do.MyNameIsNoone wrote:Just wondered where the law stands on this point. Obviously as a cyclist there's no mandatory insurance, but is the rider still (legally) liable for accidental damage like this?
I'm hoping the answer is yes, but.......
You are right - civil law. Suing for damages. A number of reasons to justify it, usually something along the line of negligence, failing to take care, etc. Tort law.
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:34 pm
Insurance does confuse people but your simple one-liner encapsulates it perfectly. I'll file that away and use it myself when the need arises.Ozkaban wrote:having insurance or not does not change your liability - it is simply you selling the risk to another entity.MyNameIsNoone wrote:Just wondered where the law stands on this point. Obviously as a cyclist there's no mandatory insurance, but is the rider still (legally) liable for accidental damage like this?
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Postby MarkG » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:39 pm
My wife , obviously concerned as a) she's the wife of a cyclist, and b) being a good person immediately offered assistance, to which the guy, who was cut up and injured quickly said oops, and took off.MyNameIsNoone wrote:Pretty low act to cause some damage (in any circumstance) and then nick off without fixing it one way or another.
Just wondered where the law stands on this point. Obviously as a cyclist there's no mandatory insurance, but is the rider still (legally) liable for accidental damage like this?
I'm hoping the answer is yes, but........
(And I also find it very very hard to believe that the traffic cams don't back up to some storage facility for at least a brief period. That seems ludicrous)
It was only when she checked if he had left anything on the road that she noticed the dent, in a perfect shape of a front wheel on her rear bumper.
By that stage, the cyclist had gone.
He's probably the same sort who dent another car in the car park at the shops and take off without leaving a note.
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Postby uglybob » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:50 pm
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Postby Sprocket » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:41 pm
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Postby MarkG » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:46 pm
I don't think so.
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Postby Howzat » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:07 pm
OK, Clarity Police here: having insurance or not does not change your liability - it is simply you buying the right to transfer eventual losses to another entity.Ozkaban wrote:having insurance or not does not change your liability - it is simply you selling the risk to another entity.
Hmm. Seems to be more complicated now.
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby kunalraiker » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:11 pm
MarkG wrote:So my wife is driving to work this morning, 7.15 am on Mounts Bay Rd, turning left on to Mill St, but waiting at the Red light when a cyclist goes full pelt in to back of her car.
Obviously the cyclist thought that my wife's indicator meant nothing, and she was going to go straight, so decided why bother waiting. The fact she was stopped at the lights didn't enter his pea brain I guess.
He has left a lovely dent on the back bumper, and said cyclist cut his self up in the process.
My wife, being the considerate person she is AND IN THE RIGHT getts out to see he's ok. He's busted up, and obviously aware of the fact he is totally at fault, and dented my wife's car, says he's fine, declines to take her number, and beats a hasty retreat. No apology, nothing.
If anyone knows something, or hears something, please let me know. I'm now forced to pay for the repairs myself as it's not worth going thru insurance, and Main Roads told my wife there's only live camera feeds there, and nothing else (which I find strange) to identify this tool.
We all know that if the situation was reversed, and my wife had backed in to him, there would be an outcry.
Don't let me be the one who finds you mate, cos I am not as forgiving as my wife..
My wife's description, cyclist mid - late 40s on a yellow and black 'racing' bike.
It was me:)
Please do not hurt me, ohh mighty one
In all fairness, I know the guy did a bad thing, but you cannot go around scaring people on a public forum.
It's just not Australian, otherwise what is the difference between him and you ?
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby MarkG » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:19 pm
I'll come around for a chat tonite.
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby LM324 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:47 pm
And when crashing your expensive bike into a hard object it is usually not the object that you check for damage first... and (maybe) he wanted to get away quickly because he knew your wife's car was stopped at the red light and would hold up traffic? He would have also been pretty shaken up and not thinking clearly.
Yes the cyclist was wrong by crashing into your wife's car... But when you put yourself in his shoes I don't think you should be so harsh against him, and if your wife had noticed the damage earlier she could have gotten his details.
Then again the cyclist must have been pretty dumb to ride into the back of a car...
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Postby rpmspinman » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:05 pm
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby MarkG » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:40 pm
too right materpmspinman wrote:Hope you find the culprit Mark. In my opinion thats not on. Had the car hit the cyclist, we'd have a news report and a public outcry of cyclists being a hit and run target, and how hard done by cyclists are. Regardless of who hit who, the person in the wrong needs to own up and do the right (Australian) thing instead of being a coward. If we as cyclists want equality on the road we need to treat others with the same dignity.
Philip - her first instinct was to check on him.
I better not find out it was anyone on here.
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:58 pm
I'll put it on a facebook event that I will title "Come over and beat me up" with his address.MarkG wrote:Give me your address .
I'll come around for a chat tonite.
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby bardygrub » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:58 pm
Any DNA on the bumper?
Did your wife notice what colour kit he was wearing?
Was it at traffic light were there may be a camera?
Just some suggestions.
Give the dude a couple of weeks for himself and the bike to get fixed then you and the wifey do a stake out on the same route at the same time as the rear end to your car and see if you can spot him.
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby sagara0510 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:30 pm
if he was commuting to work in the city, its possible that he took his bike in to Ride Advice as it would be the nearest bike shop in the CBD.
might be worth giving them a call and see if any anyone walked in with a busted up bike this morning?
good luck!
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby Howzat » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:44 pm
Why not?MarkG wrote:I better not find out it was anyone on here.
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby gettingfit » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:45 pm
That is a great idea and I know of a few people who have found culprits (including a bus who did a runner!) by doing this 'same time, same day' stake out.bardygrub wrote: Give the dude a couple of weeks for himself and the bike to get fixed then you and the wifey do a stake out on the same route at the same time as the rear end to your car and see if you can spot him.
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Re: Cyclist who hit my wife's car this morning - own up..
Postby MarkG » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:30 pm
Cos he's a coward.
My wife is still upset and the car has two noticeable dents.
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