Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:16 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:29 pm
Obviously written by someone who doesn't cycle a lot.il padrone wrote:It may well be more than just lycra. The best way to get more people riding bikes is to KISS, and make cycling easier for people.
Without question, high tech clothing designed specifically for bicycling can help a serious or competitive rider go faster and farther in greater comfort. But for the rest of us, everyday clothing works just fine.
Civilian clothes are better...
What's next?
Without question, high tech clothing designed specifically for bicycling can help a serious or competitive swimmer go faster and farther in greater comfort. But for the rest of us, everyday clothing works just fine?
Without question, high tech clothing designed specifically for bicycling can help a serious or competitive runner go faster and farther in greater comfort. But for the rest of us, everyday clothing works just fine?
Ever tried swimming or running in jeans?
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:44 pm
Not very many people swim or run to work, or the pub as a non-competitive activity (or even a competitive one) as far as I know. Lots of people ride bikes for these reasons and are not interested in doing any competitive cycle.casual_cyclist wrote:Ever tried swimming or running in jeans?
Subtle difference there. Cycling is one of the few sports that has a dual-personality - it is also serious personal transport.
BTW, please avoid such selective quoting that misconstrues what the quote was saying.
Work, pub, shopping, cafe, party, family BBQ........Civilian clothes are better, in fact, if you are riding someplace where you will end up mingling with non-riders. There’s just something about wandering around in clickity shoes and bright tight Spandex that makes one stand out in a crowd.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby outnabike » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:29 pm
il padrone wrote:outnabike, you do yourself and the concept of riding in everyday clothes (which I support) no credit by such obscenities Mods will probably dump that photo,as they have with the infamous Polish cycle team.
il padrone" thanks for the wake up call.
Sorry folks I deleted it my self, I reckon I went a bit far with it. My stupid sense of humour, I don't really have any thing against Lycra at all. My apologies for any offence.
Some times you think some thing is funny and it is just bad taste.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:11 pm
For the record:
Images of rowers in lycra have now joined the Polish cycling team on the permanent bench. Members trying to drag them back off and into play will cop a slap without further warning or discussion.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:43 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby duds2u » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:48 pm
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:53 pm
Then I'm very glad I did not see it. The poster can consider themself even luckier that I didn't.il padrone wrote:Actually MB, the worst one was no rower but a 'cyclist' - triathlete - who seemed to have forgotten his chamois
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Wal42 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:11 am
Mulger bill wrote: Then I'm very glad I did not see it. The poster can consider themself even luckier that I didn't.
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Got something against people with big quads? I may go to the anti-discrimination board with this one. PMSL.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:31 am
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby outnabike » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:29 pm
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby casual_cyclist » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:21 pm
Sigh. I go to the beach and mingle with non-swimmers wearing 'civilian clothes'. Doesn't mean I have to swim in 'civilian clothes'. Anyway, if it is that important to mingle with non-riders wearing civilian clothes you could always to what my cousin does and bring some shorts to slip over the top.il padrone wrote:Not very many people swim or run to work, or the pub as a non-competitive activity (or even a competitive one) as far as I know. Lots of people ride bikes for these reasons and are not interested in doing any competitive cycle.casual_cyclist wrote:Ever tried swimming or running in jeans?
Subtle difference there. Cycling is one of the few sports that has a dual-personality - it is also serious personal transport.
BTW, please avoid such selective quoting that misconstrues what the quote was saying.
Work, pub, shopping, cafe, party, family BBQ........Civilian clothes are better, in fact, if you are riding someplace where you will end up mingling with non-riders. There’s just something about wandering around in clickity shoes and bright tight Spandex that makes one stand out in a crowd.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:32 pm
Gosh, not sure whether there is a confusion of terminology here or not ???casual_cyclist wrote:Sigh. I go to the beach and mingle with non-swimmers wearing 'civilian clothes'. Doesn't mean I have to swim in 'civilian clothes'. Anyway, if it is that important to mingle with non-riders wearing civilian clothes you could always to what my cousin does and bring some shorts to slip over the top.
Anyway, back to my point - nobody that I know swims in street clothing, generally not feasible except in an emergency. Lots of people I know ride a bike in street clothes, it's quite feasible - for certain types of riding of course.
Slipping on some shorts - what I (and many people here) mean by 'riding in lycra' is generally much more than just shorts - also jersey, shoes, mitts, in winter tights and jacket as well. Going shopping or to a BBQ most people don't plan to do a full change of clothes.
I can't see what the grief is about the idea of riding your bike for distances of 5-15kms in street clothing ?? But do whatever suits you best.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby AndrewBurns » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:10 pm
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby human909 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:19 pm
I think after that comment you need to relinquish your username.casual_cyclist wrote:Obviously written by someone who doesn't cycle a lot.il padrone wrote:But for the rest of us, everyday clothing works just fine.
Civilian clothes are better...
I cycle EVERY DAY. So do most of my peers. Neither me or any of my peers wear Lycra while cyling. I got home half an hour ago from a Melbourne Symphony Orchestra concert. All but one in our group who attended cycled. None of us wore Lycra.
Whatsmore the friend who drove took over an hour longer to get there and park and walk! Leaving from the same location prior the concert!
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby ILMB » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:34 am
One can easily do serious kms without lycra. I regularly do going about my day-to-day chores without discomfort or inconveneience.
I also push the up-hills (as much as 25kg without pannier luggage) will allow.
But I guess if one is not into strava besting, none of it counts...
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby DavidS » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:31 am
The point is that cycling needs to be seen as a normal everyday form of transport. In order for this to happen we need visible cyclists on the road wearing everyday clothes. This doesn't mean you should all throw away your lycra, I understand that lycra is designed for and very comfortable for riding, but it does mean you need to cut the attitude. You don't need to be riding a carbon fibre racing bike in cycling specific clothing to be a serious cyclist. You only need to be propelling a two wheeled vehicle (maybe 3 for recumbents or 1 for unis) under your own steam.
As for the swimming analogy, get back to me when swimming becomes a form of transport.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby RonK » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:42 am
Why? I couldn't care less if cycling is seen as transport...to me cycling is recreation.DavidS wrote:The point is that cycling needs to be seen as a normal everyday form of transport. In order for this to happen we need visible cyclists on the road wearing everyday clothes.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby casual_cyclist » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:07 am
Did you write the article referred to in the link? Because I was referring to the person who wrote the article.human909 wrote:I think after that comment you need to relinquish your username.casual_cyclist wrote:Obviously written by someone who doesn't cycle a lot.il padrone wrote:But for the rest of us, everyday clothing works just fine.
Civilian clothes are better...
I cycle EVERY DAY. So do most of my peers. Neither me or any of my peers wear Lycra while cyling. I got home half an hour ago from a Melbourne Symphony Orchestra concert. All but one in our group who attended cycled. None of us wore Lycra.
Whatsmore the friend who drove took over an hour longer to get there and park and walk! Leaving from the same location prior the concert!
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby DavidS » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:27 am
Well, you can feel safe in the knowledge that you will continue to be treated as a third class citizen on the roads.RonK wrote:Why? I couldn't care less if cycling is seen as transport...to me cycling is recreation.DavidS wrote:The point is that cycling needs to be seen as a normal everyday form of transport. In order for this to happen we need visible cyclists on the road wearing everyday clothes.
Of course, if you only ever ride recreationally off roads, then I suppose you can just not give a stuff about anyone else.
What was that I was saying about attitude . . .
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby RonK » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:26 am
I always ride on the road, and I don't believe I'm "treated as a third class citizen on the roads". When you talk about cycling being seen as transport, you must be talking about what you need.DavidS wrote:Well, you can feel safe in the knowledge that you will continue to be treated as a third class citizen on the roads.RonK wrote:Why? I couldn't care less if cycling is seen as transport...to me cycling is recreation.DavidS wrote:The point is that cycling needs to be seen as a normal everyday form of transport. In order for this to happen we need visible cyclists on the road wearing everyday clothes.
Of course, if you only ever ride recreationally off roads, then I suppose you can just not give a stuff about anyone else.
What was that I was saying about attitude . . .
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:31 am
Mervyn HullRonK wrote:I always ride on the road, and I don't believe I'm "treated as a third class citizen on the roads".
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby AndrewBurns » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:59 am
Actually I've always been treated very well on roads, and because of my average speed I only ever ride on roads these days. As I said before I use my bike (my fancy pants carbon racing bike) as legitimate transportation as well as recreation. I do it in lycra because to wear any other clothing with how I ride would be grossly uncomfortable and highly impractical in temperatures above 5 degrees. Nobody is going to bully me into being uncomfortable to satisfy their own personal insecurities or views of the world although if you like to be frustrated I encourage you to try.DavidS wrote:Well, you can feel safe in the knowledge that you will continue to be treated as a third class citizen on the roads.RonK wrote:Why? I couldn't care less if cycling is seen as transport...to me cycling is recreation.DavidS wrote:The point is that cycling needs to be seen as a normal everyday form of transport. In order for this to happen we need visible cyclists on the road wearing everyday clothes.
Of course, if you only ever ride recreationally off roads, then I suppose you can just not give a stuff about anyone else.
What was that I was saying about attitude . . .
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:08 am
You are seriously misreading what people are saying here . No-one wants you to wear a tweed suit for your 35km commute. Of course cycling-specific clothing and a change at work is the choice for this ride. However for the 5 km ride to the railway station, do you really need the Omega Pharma Lotto team kit?AndrewBurns wrote:Nobody is going to bully me into being uncomfortable to satisfy their own personal insecurities or views of the world although if you like to be frustrated I encourage you to try.
BTW the "I don't give a freak about anyone else" attitude in several posts on here reads very poorly.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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