Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby alexf » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:02 pm

Can someone(s) experienced please give me an answer on this question. The best reference I found so far was this thread.

The Rohloff manual references two different spokes lacings for the European spoke hole pattern and the French spoke hole pattern. As I have no idea what either of these things are, I was hoping those of you who have built the rohloff onto the rohloff specific Rigida Andra 30 rims would be able to tell me which lacing you used. :)
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby Baalzamon » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:12 pm

2 cross spoke lacing
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby RonK » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:13 pm

Did you get Roger Musson's guide? It's discussed in there. To be honest I can't remember what I used. I think the drillings on the Andra are not offset.

Regardless the lacing pattern is the same, it's just a matter of which hole you start in. Check the holes either side of the valve hole. If there is any offset, then the spoke must run to the same side hub flange as the hole is offset. Then you need to decide which way the rim will rotate, so you know if it's a leading or trailing spoke.

Also, there's a note in the manual about not crossing the spokes over the screws. But this only applies to 20" wheels from memory, for larger diameter rims cross them over the screws.
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby alexf » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:32 pm

Thanks guys.

Actually on page 55 of the rohloff manual there is a good picture showing the two spoke hole patterns. It looks like the Andra 30 has the French spoke hole pattern. When I look at the valve hole from above (rim on knees, valve hole furthest away), the spoke hole away from my body is to the left of the valve hole.
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby alexf » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:33 pm

RonK wrote:Did you get Roger Musson's guide? It's discussed in there. To be honest I can't remember what I used. I think the drillings on the Andra are not offset.


I don't have the guide. I am getting a bike shop to build the wheel for me, but just wanted to make sure I get the lacing correct in my head.
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby RonK » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:59 pm

alexf wrote:When I look at the valve hole from above (rim on knees, valve hole furthest away), the spoke hole away from my body is to the left of the valve hole.

Now you are on the right track...take a copy of the manual with you to the wheelbuilder.
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby alexf » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:14 am

Blah, apparently neither of those drillings are right, this is the reply I got from sjs:

"They are drilled for the way we build them, see this image for the lacing pattern:
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/26-(559 )-rear-wheel-32h-rigida-andra-30-black-rim-with-retrofit-rohloff-speedhub-500-14-cc-14-speed-gear-hub-silver-prod26330/"
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby alexf » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:30 am

It seems that Thorn use the French spoke hole pattern rohloff build, but flip the orientation of the spoke heads around: spoke heads which rohloff spec as facing outwards face inwards on the sjs picture, and vice versa for rohloff specced inward facing spokes.
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby alexf » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:34 am

Ok, two references to this rim being built using Thorn's advice: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37092&hilit=thorn+raven&start=25#p589869
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby RonK » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:45 pm

alexf wrote:Ok, two references to this rim being built using Thorn's advice: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37092&hilit=thorn+raven&start=25#p589869

Yes, that's my post.
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby rifraf » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:05 pm

Which chapter of the Rohloff downloadable manual deals with the actual building of the wheel (lacing etc)? :D
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Re: Spoke pattern - Rigida Andra 30 CSS 32 hole for rohloff

Postby rifraf » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:15 pm


Hi Alexf,
thanks heaps for that. Much appreciated. Now to dig out my usb cable in hiding and get the printer set up (hoping like hell the ink hasnt dried) :D
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