Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
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Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:51 pm
Well, like all good things come to those that wait, it's finally HERE !!!
I've started the build process, the Kona is going, and hopefully it won't take long.
Here are some initial pics ;
Frame, fork, setapost & headset
Not bad for a 57cm frame, disc ready and setup for full internal cabling
Same goes for a full carbon disc roadfork, steerer still untrimmed
Progress so far.
The frame has full internal routing of hydraulic lines for disc brakes and gear cables, and as I've never done the internal cable bit, I've asked for some assistance rather than stuff it up
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Mulger bill » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:58 pm
Can you post a full side on pic please Michael? I really wanna check out those lines properly.
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:35 pm
For best side profile, head on over to http://www.volagi.com and there are heaps of pics there of the different colour schemes too. They are proper pics.
Christopher will vouch for my lack of photographic skills
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby AndrewBurns » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:20 pm
Although technically you wouldn't be allowed to use a bike with disc brakes in road races right? Only CX races...
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:47 pm
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Mulger bill » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:50 pm
Time to save
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby barefoot » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:54 pm
Depends on who organises the race.AndrewBurns wrote:Although technically you wouldn't be allowed to use a bike with disc brakes in road races right? Only CX races...
I've had a couple of guys in my semi-regular morning bunch suggest I come racing with the local vet club.
Choking down the insult (I'm only 37 dammit... oh... yeah, that's over 35 isn't it? ), I pointed out that my disc-brake roadie isn't UCI compliant.
"Pffft, as if anybody's going to give a toss about that!".
One of the guys in the conversation is the club's handicapper, so probably has some idea of their attitude toward rules.
Of course, you'll probably get called for it if you try racing a disc road bike at the nationals... but the likelyhood of me racing at that level is even lower than the likelyhood of me racing at _any_ level
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:36 pm
29er Carbon clinchers & CM hubs
Have done some digging around re the internal cable stuff, and have a slightly better idea of what to do, but still waiting on some feedback from Volagi Aus & US.
Other option is to take it to the LBS for them to do it, but would rather do it myself
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby ironhanglider » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:30 pm
The AVCCC (Vets) are not part of Cycling Australia and don't require UCI compliant bikes. The UCI rules for bikes take up pages of detailed rules and measurements. The entire rules for bikes under the AVCC can be found on the website and are short enough to post here.barefoot wrote:Depends on who organises the race.AndrewBurns wrote:Although technically you wouldn't be allowed to use a bike with disc brakes in road races right? Only CX races...
You will note that under (e) a bike only needs to have efficient, independent brakes. Unfortunately under (d) no-one can ride a bike that actually complies. Even this one doesn't come close.AVCC website wrote:6. Equipment and Clothing
a) Race numbers must be prominently displayed at all times. Numbers must not be folded or damaged in any way and must be returned after the finish.
b) ‘An Australian approved and securely fastened helmet conforming to standard AS/NZ/2063 must be worn on the head at all times while riding’. Australian approved teardrop helmets cannot be used in road races but shall be allowed in road time trials and track time trials and pursuits.
c) Competitors should be neatly attired at the start of a race and at after-race presentations. Racing jerseys must be designed so as to cover the upper arms and shoulders.
d) Only equipment sanctioned and approved by the A.V.C.C. Inc. shall be permitted in races under its patronage. The bicycle shall be a conventional triangular framemade from materials suitable forbicycle construction. The maximum length shall not be more than185cm. and a width of 50cm. Either 650cm, or 700cm wheels,and drop handlebars shall be used.
For Road events two efficient hand brakes and a freewheel shall be used; Spinacci and ‘Tri’ bars are not to be used.
For Road Time Trials it may have either a fixed wheel or freewheel system, standard time trial handlebars with handlebar extensions and elbow rests.
For Track racing, in Sprints and Scratch races it shall have a fixed rear wheel. In Time Trials and Pursuits freewheel multiple gears, handlebar extensions and elbow rests may be used.
‘Flat Bars’ (Mountain bike style) shall not be permitted in any of the aforementioned disciplines.
Handlebar ends must be plugged.
e) It is an offence to compete on any bicycle unless it is mechanically sound and maintained to the highest safety standards. 'Singles' must be securely glued to the rim and road bicycles must be equipped with two efficient, independent brakes.
f) i. Only conventional racing machines as described in rule 6(d) shall be used in AVCC events and no unfair aerodynamic advantage associated with a bicycle shall be allowed, nor any modifications or construction allowed that jeopardize safety.
ii. Bicycle gear and brake controls may be modified to accommodate individual needs, however, modified controls will be mounted on conventional handlebars on a conventional bicycle.
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby cobba » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:55 pm
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Nobody » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:18 pm
Looks like you can't have modified DT shifters either.ironhanglider wrote:AVCC website wrote:...
f) i. Only conventional racing machines as described in rule 6(d) shall be used in AVCC events and no unfair aerodynamic advantage associated with a bicycle shall be allowed, nor any modifications or construction allowed that jeopardize safety.
ii. Bicycle gear and brake controls may be modified to accommodate individual needs, however, modified controls will be mounted on conventional handlebars on a conventional bicycle.
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby ironhanglider » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:39 pm
Yep, Drillium is out. Fortunately the DT shifter on my tandem is not modified.Nobody wrote:Looks like you can't have modified DT shifters either.ironhanglider wrote:AVCC website wrote:...
f) i. Only conventional racing machines as described in rule 6(d) shall be used in AVCC events and no unfair aerodynamic advantage associated with a bicycle shall be allowed, nor any modifications or construction allowed that jeopardize safety.
ii. Bicycle gear and brake controls may be modified to accommodate individual needs, however, modified controls will be mounted on conventional handlebars on a conventional bicycle.
The modifications intended are to deal with missing/arthritic fingers etc. It would be a heck of a mod to make a derailler to be knee operated, but possible with Di2 I suppose. I don't think that bottom-clench operated brakes are planned for anyone's future. I suspect that coaster brakes are also ruled out too.
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby sogood » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:44 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:23 pm
I dunno if the tech crosses the boundary but don't the cf rotors on F1 cars have to be heavily shrouded to retain heat as the rotors work best when hot?cobba wrote:How about some Carbon Brake Rotors to go with the carbon rims and frame ?
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:25 am
I'd love to try a pair.Mulger bill wrote:I dunno if the tech crosses the boundary but don't the cf rotors on F1 cars have to be heavily shrouded to retain heat as the rotors work best when hot?cobba wrote:How about some Carbon Brake Rotors to go with the carbon rims and frame ?
Re shrouding, it's to get the disc/pad combo to optimum operating temp. F1 is right at the limit.
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:26 am
Ta. It's been a long time coming, and hopefully will look the goods when it is done.sogood wrote:Cycling "bling" has just been redefined! Nice choice Michael!
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:33 am
Been doing some reading-I retract the above comment unreservedly. Seriously considering these, not for the bling or WW factor either.Mulger bill wrote:I dunno if the tech crosses the boundary but don't the cf rotors on F1 cars have to be heavily shrouded to retain heat as the rotors work best when hot?cobba wrote:How about some Carbon Brake Rotors to go with the carbon rims and frame ?
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:32 pm
See pics below
The Thicker tube is the housing that the gear cable and thinner guide tube slide into
1st gear cable being routed - the gear cable slides into the thinner guide tube, and that pair is then routed down the downtube. The thinner tube with the cable inside then feeds into the thicker tube
Repeat steps for RD cable
Thank god that is over !!!
Now for some pics with wheels !!
Plenty of room for a 180mm disc at the front
and a 160mm disc at the rear (normal spec is 140mm, but the RT86 rotor is only available in 140mm for centrelock hubs )
And now for some side shots !! (a bit of steerer tube to trim ....)
Next jobs are to start mounting the crank and TRP Parabox, which will involve hyd line trimming, bleeding and probably a bit of swearing ...
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Crittski » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:54 pm
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:11 am
Anybody want to buy a kidney?
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:35 am
Crittski wrote:Lol, next job is to mount the rear wheel the other way around!!
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Crittski » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:12 am
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby Crawf » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:41 am
LolCrittski wrote:Lol, next job is to mount the rear wheel the other way around!!
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Re: Volagi Liscio (Gen 2) build thread
Postby MichaelB » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:07 am
Ummmm, it was a mistake on purpose to see who is paying attention ....Crawf wrote:LolCrittski wrote:Lol, next job is to mount the rear wheel the other way around!!
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