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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Bartek » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:21 pm

John Lewis wrote:What's happened to Bartek?

Must be too busy enjoying the mango to post. :D

Hope you are having fun with it anyway.

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I am still here John, and yes enjoying the Mango. Although I have just come back from a very enjoyable 4 days camping near your neck of the woods, Augusta to be precise, and had to leave the Mango at home.

Baalzamon - the headlights do adjust but I haven't played around with them in the dark much yet.

Rhubarb - yes they do switch on independently and there is only one adjustment lever.

I was back on the Mango today commuting to work, so hopefully will continue familiarising myself with it, one thing I have noticed is that it sometimes seems to change up 2 or 3 gears at once even though I have only shifted one index. So I am still working out the gears and havent used the middle or lowest set yet as it is fairly flat around here.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:09 am

Bartek wrote:
John Lewis wrote:What's happened to Bartek?

Must be too busy enjoying the mango to post. :D

Hope you are having fun with it anyway.

john


I am still here John, and yes enjoying the Mango. Although I have just come back from a very enjoyable 4 days camping near your neck of the woods, Augusta to be precise, and had to leave the Mango at home.

Baalzamon - the headlights do adjust but I haven't played around with them in the dark much yet.

Rhubarb - yes they do switch on independently and there is only one adjustment lever.

I was back on the Mango today commuting to work, so hopefully will continue familiarising myself with it, one thing I have noticed is that it sometimes seems to change up 2 or 3 gears at once even though I have only shifted one index. So I am still working out the gears and havent used the middle or lowest set yet as it is fairly flat around here.



Flat ground is a velomobile owners dream !!!!

The index shifting is adjusted via a standard adjustment barrell, located at the rear derailleur. Just do small adjustments to start with - it probably won't need much. The gear cables just stretch a bit as they bed in.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Riggsbie » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:37 am

Hey Rhu....

I liked your video of your rainy commute !!
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby drumondo » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:54 am

Anyone taken one through one of the toll tunnels in Brisvegas? I guess it's not a a bicycle by definition, so it's not on the excluded vehicle signs...

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:00 am

Riggsbie wrote:Hey Rhu....

I liked your video of your rainy commute !!


Cheers - the latest one is pretty lame, even by my standards. :oops: Aushiker gave it rave reviews though. :wink:

Others may appreciate the rainy commute video as it kind of fits the theme of this thread:

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:19 pm

drumondo wrote:Anyone taken one through one of the toll tunnels in Brisvegas? I guess it's not a a bicycle by definition, so it's not on the excluded vehicle signs...

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Legally it is considered as a bicycle.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Joeblake » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:37 pm

Rhubarb, I've been going back through the thread trying to find out, but at 44 pages it's probably quicker to ask you what sort of camera are you using? It gives a pretty good picture.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Baalzamon » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:43 pm

Joeblake wrote:Rhubarb, I've been going back through the thread trying to find out, but at 44 pages it's probably quicker to ask you what sort of camera are you using? It gives a pretty good picture.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Joeblake » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:51 pm

Thanks for that.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby John Lewis » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:32 pm

Perhaps the cam has been updated or I am recalling wrongly but I thought Rhubarb was using one of those 808 No 11 spy cams.

I have one and the video is pretty good for what it is. I just need to find a way to mount it so it doesn't cause shaky video.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:07 pm

I did used to use the 808#16 but I have recently upgraded to an RD32ii. Its kind of a poor man's Contour / GoPro :-) but its excellent value at $116 USD delivered.

Here is the link: http://dx.com/p/hd-1080p-mini-sports-dv ... ser-119097

The camera cost $116.50 USD including shipping and I got in a about 2 weeks or just under.

The key features for me:

- Full HD 1920 x 1080p (AT) 30 fps
- Wide angle 140 deg which seems to give good vision without the extreme fish eye effect (bending poles etc)
- waterproof
- battery lasts 2.5 hours, but for I can also charge and record at the same time via the USB ports in my velo, giving me virtually unlimited time.
- small streamlined form factor (weight 86g)
- It also has a nice vibration thing when you hit buttons, so if you helmet mounted it, you could tell if you turned it on correctly etc.

The downside is the standard handle bar mount. It is crap. It has play in it which just shakes and moves all over the place. Terrible video. They come with other mounts too which look good for some other purposes but I mainly want handle bar. So if you want to handlebar mount, I currently use one of these: http://dx.com/p/universal-bicycle-swive ... 28&u=21314

This works fine on normal handlebar diameters but I mount mine on a skinnier bar mount thing, so I have ordered one of these: http://dx.com/p/360-degrees-rotation-mo ... ght-167007

My current one is fine but I think the new one will grip the bar tighter and thus be steadier at speed / bumpy roads.

If you want a thorough review, check out Techmoan's 2 part review of the camera:

- part 1: http://youtu.be/TKQSRQ7lfwM
- part 2: http://youtu.be/N7EzM3pxDuc

This will run you through the features pretty thoroughly. Just ignore the part where he says the handle bar mount is fine. It isn't - its crap.

Overall, I'm very happy with my new camera and I think its excellent value. The extra features of more expensive cameras (GoPro/Contour etc), eg wifi, built in gps etc, I just don't need. I've only had it a few weeks but really love the full hd. Oh and it also has excellent sound for cycling as the microphone is at the back so you don't pick up all the wind noise that other cameras do.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Joeblake » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:15 pm

That's great, thanks very much.

I like the 2.5 hour bit.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby AndrewBurns » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:33 am

What do people think of velomobiles with electric assist? It seems to me that they'd be good for all-weather commuting on the flat but without a motor you really suffer on hills. If you live in an area that's all rolling hills like me then couldn't an electric assist motor make up for the extra weight of the body shell?
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby DentedHead » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:56 am

AndrewBurns wrote:What do people think of velomobiles with electric assist?


That's cheating :P


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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Joeblake » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:02 pm

Not QUITE a velomobile, but solar powered and great for climbing hills

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Go for it. :wink:

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby AndrewBurns » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:20 pm

DentedHead wrote:
AndrewBurns wrote:What do people think of velomobiles with electric assist?


That's cheating :P


Dent.


I already ride the route on my carbon race bike, that's more cheating I think :P If I chose to ride in a heavier bike for weather protection I don't see it as cheating to want some assistance up hills, but maybe it wouldn't even be that bad I don't know.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby bradwoodbr » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:24 pm

Here is one idea that makes a lot of sense.
http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/tetz/E-AssistMetric/default.htm
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Riggsbie » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:04 pm

I love the ingenuity of solar electric trikes :)

Fantastic !!
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Joeblake » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:11 pm

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Aushiker » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:50 pm

AndrewBurns wrote:What do people think of velomobiles with electric assist? It seems to me that they'd be good for all-weather commuting on the flat but without a motor you really suffer on hills. If you live in an area that's all rolling hills like me then couldn't an electric assist motor make up for the extra weight of the body shell?


Great idea if you can get around the 25 km/h limit :) Check out Harry at Sinner Bikes' Mango. It has a Pedelec fitted. There are videos on him riding it.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Riggsbie » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:11 pm

What kind of speeds does Harry get to by driving the motor through the gearing ?
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:17 pm

My understanding with the pedelec systems is that they cut out assistance at 27km/hr. So on the flat and downhill you would be cruising under your own steam and it would only help you out to accelerate from a stop, or to climb hills.

Pedelec is an excellent idea for velomobiles in hilly areas.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby John Lewis » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:37 pm

I think I read somewhere in a post by H@rry that he could do 40 kmh so he ad probably doctored it.
he also mentioned the distance he could do on a battery and it was respectable. Somewhere around 100 km. Obviously wasn't just using power of course.
I'll see if I can find the post again .

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Roinik » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:07 pm

The Australian road rules 2012 state two power classes (in summary):
200W: unrestricted speed, however power is only to be applied when pedalling, hence pedal-assist.
250W: restricted to 25 km/h when pedalling. Power assist cuts out at 25 km/h.

Other rules are applicable to other countries (and states within those countries).
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Aushiker » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:45 pm

Riggsbie wrote:What kind of speeds does Harry get to by driving the motor through the gearing ?




Averaged 39.2 km/h on medium assist.

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