Which pedals to buy first time changing to cleats
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Which pedals to buy first time changing to cleats
Postby Jerryjan » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:19 pm
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Re: Which pedals to buy first time changing to cleats
Postby foo on patrol » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:26 pm
Just remember you need to buy pedals to suit the type of cleat.
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Postby Venus62 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:35 pm
Definitely look for pedals online. Got mine from Wiggle for a fraction of the price the LBS wanted.
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Postby trailgumby » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:19 pm
The spin class compatibility is an excellent point
Cleats come with pedals, not the shoes. I'd recommend buying the shoes from a shop, as you really need to try them on as fit is super important. They need to be snug,and hold your heel well. Guessing a size off a webpage will not do.
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Postby Marty Moose » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:21 pm
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Postby RonK » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:04 pm
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Postby JessicaAlba » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:21 pm
Its like riding a bike, a couple tries and you'll have it nailed. My 2c is to go with SPD-SL (Speedplay are severely overpriced, imo), but each to their own. Work to a budget, practice a few times and you'll be fine.
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Postby Nobody » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:59 pm
RonK, why do you think they are overrated? Steve Hogg recommends them for their adjust-ability and there are many on these forums that have had trouble with others but finally found a good fit with them.
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Postby high_tea » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:06 pm
As far as getting started goes, here's my advice. Whatever system you spring for, dial the release tension down as far as possible. Now go somewhere it won't hurt to fall over. Now practice coming to a halt and then clipping out. People may tell you to just clip out in advance or something. I don't care for this approach: IMO you need to be able to get your foot down when the unexpected happens.
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Postby Nobody » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:10 pm
Yeah, so he can practice clipping out before he stops to begin, then clip out as he stops when he knows he isn't going to crash.high_tea wrote:Now practice coming to a halt and then clipping out. People may tell you to just clip out in advance or something. I don't care for this approach: IMO you need to be able to get your foot down when the unexpected happens.
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Postby TDC » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:18 pm
If you don't like them, then its not much coin to drop.
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Postby Jerryjan » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:10 pm
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Postby RonK » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:01 pm
There is a myth that some seem keen to perpetuate that only Speedplay have lateral float - it's hogwash (sorry Steve) of course but there you go. Take away that myth and what do you have left? Apparently they are easier to engage, but cleat engagement is not an issue for me and most other riders. New Speedplay cleats however can be very difficult to engage, and this may bluff new riders - they are several threads here from posters who have attested to that.Nobody wrote:Cost is fairly irrelevant when your 59. He probably has more money than he knows what to do with.
RonK, why do you think they are overrated? Steve Hogg recommends them for their adjust-ability and there are many on these forums that have had trouble with others but finally found a good fit with them.
My wife uses Speedplay Zeros so I get to perform the constant maintenance and to pay for the expensive cleats. Meanwhile the SPD's on my tourer and Keos on my road bike have plenty of float with the correct cleats (and I have quite bad knees from years of trekking), are almost maintenance free and replacement cleats are half the price of Speedplays.
So yes, they are overrated. Seriously overrated.
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Postby RonK » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:07 pm
You will almost inevitably fall over! Expect it! Be prepared for it!Jerryjan wrote:Thanks everybody for the quick replies, after seeing a few riders fall over at the lights, I was a dubious. I think I will go with the spd style.
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Postby twizzle » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:57 am
No, only speedplay have LARGE amounts of float. Next after that would be CrankBros then SPD, but they are not as durable (small bearings).RonK wrote: There is a myth that some seem keen to perpetuate that only Speedplay have lateral float - it's hogwash (sorry Steve) of course but there you go.
Anyway... I would also recommend SPD's for a first timer.
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Postby Nobody » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:34 am
I don't know if anyone mentioned lateral float, but I thought Time were the ones that had more of that. The angular float that most people talk about is yaw (although I haven't heard the term used for cleats that I can remember.)RonK wrote:There is a myth that some seem keen to perpetuate that only Speedplay have lateral float - it's hogwash (sorry Steve) of course but there you go.
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Postby JessicaAlba » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:44 am
I would suggest yaw is contextually incorrect. Lateral float is the correct term in this case.Nobody wrote:I don't know if anyone mentioned lateral float, but I thought Time were the ones that had more of that. The angular float that most people talk about is yaw (although I haven't heard the term used for cleats that I can remember.)RonK wrote:There is a myth that some seem keen to perpetuate that only Speedplay have lateral float - it's hogwash (sorry Steve) of course but there you go.
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Re: Which pedals to buy first time changing to cleats
Postby eeksll » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:21 pm
There are 2 types of setups, Each have their own type of shoe and the shoes are generally not interchangeable. ie if you buy MTB shoes and later want to go to a road setup you will need to buy new shoes (and vice versa)
MTB style (spd/crank brothers/..)
this style has recessed cleats so you can walk in your shoes quite well, I do this alot.
All the ones i have seen, these are double sided and easy cleat engagement, i.e you can pretty much stomp on the pedal and your in.
The small cleat means that there can be little to alot of play between the pedal and shoe.
Road Style (SPD-SL/speedplay/look/...)
The cleats are MUCH bigger and they stick out at the bottom of the shoe, walking is not comfortable.
Harder to engage cleats to pedals due to pedals being single sided. Speedplay are double sided but they are just not as easy to engage as SPD's.
The bigger cleat holds the pedal with a much more solid grip and there is less to no play between the shoe and pedal.
For me, the first thing I would consider is how much you walk in your shoes, e.g do you ride your bike as a form of transport to work/shops/... if so I'd go the mtb variety as they have a recessed cleat so you can walk in your cycling shoes quite well.
If you ride alot in traffic, start/stop alot, lots of hill starts then I'd seriously consider the MTB style due to ease of engagement.
The stronger interface (no play) of the road pedals is just a nicer feeling. Apart from what I said above, i wouldn't worry too much about ease/hardness of cleat engagement, if you ride 240km a week you'll get used to whichever you choose pretty quickly.
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Re: Which pedals to buy first time changing to cleats
Postby Jerryjan » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:35 am
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Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:13 am
Make sure you report back on them. A mate of mine just bought some as well and he's loving them. He's never ridden a road bike before, nor clipless pedals, and he was wondering what all the fuss was about. He knows now.Jerryjan wrote:Hi I have just ordered the click r pedals and shoes
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