Glue-on tyres
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Glue-on tyres
Postby Kermit TF » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:39 pm
One of my roadies came out with 27x1 arayas and glue on tyres. In the course of originality I was looking to get some glue ons, but my local mechanic told me they are not cheap to buy and are labor intensive to install..
Has anyone had any experiences with glue ons, can a novice ( with some guidance ) install them ? Thoughts ?
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby munga » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:55 pm
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby GaryF » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:18 pm
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby rogerrabbit » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:23 pm
If you want the ultimate riding experience they are great. If you want convenience and "what everyone else has" then change to clinchers. You need to carry a spare tubular tyre under your seat in case of puncture, and if you get two punctures, you are screwed because everyone else is riding clinchers.
If you get a puncture on a tubular, pull the old tyre of, chuck the spare on without glue and don't push too hard on corners until you reglue it that night at home.
Most tubulars are readily repaired, and again, it isn't that hard. It takes me about 20 minutes. Not for the side of the road though.
Technically the Tubular rims are also 700c in size, not 27", and Araya made some 700c x 1" clincher rims, if you can find a set.
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby Paul Watson » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:11 pm
Vittoria Rally tubs cost around $30 and look good on classic/retro bikes. Carry a pre-glued spare under your saddle. Also, do what the cyclo-cross guys do, and carry a can of pressurised latex foam (Vittoria Pitstop, Effetto Mariposa Esspresso, many others). When you get a flat go for the foam option first, and keep your spare as a last resort. The foam will probably fix your flat.
Unless you are seriously old school, and at $30 a tyre, you might not be too inclined to go through the rigmarole of unpicking the stitching and repairng the tube.
You can ride a long way on a barely inflated tub and it feels a whole lot more comfortable than a flat clincher.
Tubs feel great. You will feel hardcore old school, and you won't ever get a pinch flat. It will be great - trust me.
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby morini » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:16 am
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby toolonglegs » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:49 am
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby morini » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:21 pm
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby Kermit TF » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:42 pm
I trolled thru the youtube how-to clips as per above, is it really necessary to apply 3 coats of glue over a 3 day period ? every video is different in its approach as to number of glue coats.
The biggest problem I have is sourcing decent 27x1's, just not a common size
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby munga » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:23 pm
pick the one you're happy with, and do that. if you're "100% hardcore and pushing pain to the max", you might want to go to your local velodrome/crit track and ask for the number of a guy who can do it for you.
i'd be comfortable following any of those vids.
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby rogerrabbit » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:46 pm
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby Kermit TF » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:31 pm
Never trust a mechanic under the age of 30 to advise on old steelies. I should learn to question more, when something doesnt sound right....
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby jonbays » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:05 pm
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby Paul Watson » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:34 pm
I agree. "Singles" is an archaic American term for horrible old tyres made like a hose. "Tubulars"/"tubs"/"sew-ups" refers to modern glue on tyres with a seam. For those who can't find the seam- it it's under the backing tape.jonbays wrote:Since when did we change from singles to tubulars?
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby scratchman » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:01 pm
I never realised that, we always called them singles back in the 60's, and checking my old Aus Cyclist magazines ads Gordon Lawrence Cycles calls them "single tubulars", Hillman Cycles "singles", Progress bicycles "singles", Cyril Ades Noble Park, our club's bike shop also called em singles and they certainly weren't influenced by Americans back thenPaul Watson wrote:I agree. "Singles" is an archaic American term for horrible old tyres made like a hose. "Tubulars"/"tubs"/"sew-ups" refers to modern glue on tyres with a seam. For those who can't find the seam- it it's under the backing tape.jonbays wrote:Since when did we change from singles to tubulars?
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby jonbays » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:21 pm
Not that I could afford them at the time of course hand me down cotterless cranks was what I was scheming to get and I already had been given an old single from Ramon Russel who I used to go on training rides but of course I didn't have the rims to suit and couldn't afford them anyway on $16.20 a week paperboy money!
I never realised that, we always called them singles back in the 60's, and checking my old Aus Cyclist magazines ads Gordon Lawrence Cycles calls them "single tubulars", Hillman Cycles "singles", Progress bicycles "singles", Cyril Ades Noble Park, our club's bike shop also called em singles and they certainly weren't influenced by Americans back then [/quote]
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Re: Glue-on tyres
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby Paul Watson » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Fortunately, I don't think many American singles made it to Australia. Here is what Sheldon Brown says: http://sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html#singletube
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby morini » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:06 pm
When I first bought 700c wheels in the late 70's they were called HP'S, high pressures. It's only been in the last few years that I started to hear the term clinchers all the time. Sounds like another language invasion from the goddams if you ask me. Yanks, to those who don't know what a goddam is.
I won't lose any sleep over it.
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Re: Glue-on tyres
Postby Kermit TF » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:42 pm
Interestingly, The young guys in the shop referred to them as tubulars , yet the middle aged mechanic referred to them as singles.
I prefer #%+£€ !!! Glue ons !
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Re: Glue-on tyres
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