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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby toppity » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:17 am

I bloody love this thread. Thank you.
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:37 am

brentono wrote:
mikesbytes wrote:Isn't his bicycle somewhere in Sydney?


Right Mike (and Derny) :D
Seems Major Taylor's black bike he rode in 1903 and 1904- was owned by Jack Walsh.
(on display, but had sat unnoticed in Walsh's suburban cycling shop for 15 years in 2004)
As to where the bike is now? (Vale Jack Walsh- 2010) :?:

After 1904, Taylor retired, for several years after the birth of his Daughter "Sydney" in Sydney.
His racing number was always 13, and although considered by many to be unlucky,
Taylor always insisted that promoters allot him the "devil's number" on the programme.
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Here's an article about it
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby mikesbytes » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:46 pm

Check out the crank on Major's bike
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:57 am

bigfriendlyvegan wrote:Here's an article about it


Thanks BFV, the info was from the dated (2004) article on the black bike. :)
Taylor died a pauper in 1932 in Chicago. He was buried in an unmarked grave.


Actually-
"May 23, 1948 -- A group of former pro bike racers,
with money donated by Schwinn Bicycle Co. owner Frank Schwinn,
had Taylor's remains exhumed and reburied in a more prominent part
of Mount Glenwood Cemetery in Illinois."
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:09 am

brentono wrote:
bigfriendlyvegan wrote:Here's an article about it


Thanks BFV, the info was from the dated (2004) article on the black bike. :)
Taylor died a pauper in 1932 in Chicago. He was buried in an unmarked grave.


Actually-
"May 23, 1948 -- A group of former pro bike racers,
with money donated by Schwinn Bicycle Co. owner Frank Schwinn,
had Taylor's remains exhumed and reburied in a more prominent part
of Mount Glenwood Cemetery in Illinois."
:mrgreen:


And the monument states very clearly that Frank Schwinn donated the money. Athletes are even valuable marketing tools after they're dead, and even if they've never ridden your bikes.
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:37 pm

From the Smithsonian
Some former racing stars and members of the Olde Tymers Athletic Club
of the South Wabash Avenue YMCA persuaded Frank Schwinn,
owner of the Schwinn Bicycle Company, to pay to have Taylor’s remains exhumed
and transferred to a more fitting location—the cemetery’s Memorial Garden of the Good Shepherd.

There, a bronze tablet reads:

“Worlds champion bicycle racer who came up the hard way—Without hatred in his heart
—An honest, courageous and God-fearing, clean-living gentlemanly athlete.
A credit to his race who always gave out his best—Gone but not forgotten.”


The black bike in Sydney was a Massey-Harris bicycle.
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:20 pm

brentono wrote:From the Smithsonian
Some former racing stars and members of the Olde Tymers Athletic Club
of the South Wabash Avenue YMCA persuaded Frank Schwinn,
owner of the Schwinn Bicycle Company, to pay to have Taylor’s remains exhumed
and transferred to a more fitting location—the cemetery’s Memorial Garden of the Good Shepherd.

There, a bronze tablet reads:

“Worlds champion bicycle racer who came up the hard way—Without hatred in his heart
—An honest, courageous and God-fearing, clean-living gentlemanly athlete.
A credit to his race who always gave out his best—Gone but not forgotten.”


The black bike in Sydney was a Massey-Harris bicycle.
:mrgreen:


It may not be that one that I was referring to. I saw one last night that very clearly said something along the lines of "plaque donated by Frank Schwinn". When I read it, I thought it was a bit rude that Schwinn would put his name up there to associate himself with Taylor. When I find the image, I'll post it.

In the mean time, more info on the image I displayed before:
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:43 pm

A bit rude, was how Taylor was used, and abused in Australia. :o
(even after his mistreatment on his first trip, in 1903... same happened on his second trip)
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By 1902 and 1903, Taylor was thinking of retiring even as the sport was declining in popularity. However, he agreed to a second lucrative Australian tour in 1904. This time, promoters invited his primary white rivals from the United States to make the competition more interesting. They used their typical tactics to block Taylor, while Australian racers saw no reason to cooperate with him to block some of these efforts since they would not share in Taylor's pay. In a match race in Melbourne, one of the rivals caused Taylor to crash, leaving him stunned, bruised, and lacerated.

These activities made Taylor all the more popular with the Australian public, which attended his events in great numbers. Over 32,000 people attended a race at the Sydney Cricket Ground. However, the experience left Taylor bitter. Not only were his competitors blocking him, but officials' decisions were frustrating him. Many of the races were "inconclusive, spoiled as they were by bad judges' decisions, refusals to appear, and the muddle of frequent official inquiries and the withholding of prize money." By the time Taylor left Australia, he had decided never to return:

Ultimately, the public were deeply disappointed by the disputes, the confusion, and the chaos that spoiled Australian bicycle racing that year and often made it impossible for Taylor to give the stunning performances for which he was noted. [Major Taylor , 143-144]
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:43 pm

Skol 6 England (Promoter Aussie Ron Webb)
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby Derny Driver » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:41 pm

brentono wrote:Skol 6 England (Promoter Aussie Ron Webb)
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My guess: 1969?
And L to R: Patrick Sercu, Klaus Bugdahl, Bill Lawrie, Graeme Gilmore ?
Dont know who the starter is UNFORTUNATELY
am I close?
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:15 am

Came from Velodrome construction company site - ronwebbcycletracks
Though this period is sparsely documented.
My guess is 1980. From Sercu jersey, vertical red and white.
Second from left for me, first thought, Rene Pijnen.
Other's? (Lawrie & Gilmore not there 79 or 80)
Starter, legs look familiar. :)
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Here's another shot from series.
(My thoughts-Maurice Burton leading, Don Allan back 3rd, Tony James-w/Pijnen next and Sercu 8th)
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby siennatrack » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:26 pm

I remember watching Maurice Burton race in Tassie around that time he won the aces scratch race at Burnie on the last night ,his mate and partner at that time was Paul Medhurst.That same year at Tassie was the first time i ever saw lycra knicks and he was wearing them so after the racing finished my father and i approached him and managed to buy a few pairs and some singles called continental reifens [sic] great tires,anyway you can blame him for the move from woolen to lycra and now i would like to get my hands on a pair of woolen Gianni knicks and those great silk jerseys they made.The big wheel turns hey.
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:14 am

Siennatrack
Know what you mean, mate, on Lycra. I only used woolen Gianni knicks.
The factory was in Milano, from memory? Anyway, visited there, had
bulk knicks, warmup pants, and woolen undershirts, that I carted around for years
(many new) and only got rid of them a few years ago. Gave them away.
May still have silks (most likely polyamide), maybe? though not sure. :D
I just caught the end of the "era" in the sport, so much of which passed, unrecorded.
Aussies in Europe, at that time, passed like ships in the night, it was tuff.
Don't forget Woolen Jerseys. 8)
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1976: Introduction of the Lycra® fabric in the production of cycling bib-shorts. Historically,
until this moment, the bib-shorts were produced with black coloured wool and equipped with leather paddings.
Santini promote this change and begin the production of the Lycra® bib-shorts
with antibacterial synthetic fabric chamois.

Around 1977 Castelli had released their first Lycra cycling short.
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:52 pm

If it's Christian Dior it's probably silk. :D
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:59 am

Vel d'Hiv French board game.
Plenty out there... 8)
http://www.cyclingboardgames.net/l_velodrome.htm
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Re: Cool track photo thread

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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby Derny Driver » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:50 am

Good page that
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby foo on patrol » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:36 pm

This is gunna hurt, from the above link! :shock:

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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby foo on patrol » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:45 pm

The great man himself. 8)

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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby foo on patrol » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:54 pm

This is what track racing is about, closeness and speed. :wink:

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I'll stop now. :mrgreen:

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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby wurtulla wabbit » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:58 pm

brentono wrote:Skol 6 England (Promoter Aussie Ron Webb)
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Awesome pins !
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:22 am

Great Link Mike. Thanks :mrgreen:
From it got the recent story on La Cipale, a track dear to my heart (longest straight in history)
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... with some views of the Track April 3, 2013 after sanding sessions.
The result of the work is excellent Steps will hold cleaning,
approval by the team of France (Florian Rousseau) and paint lines ..

here... Save the Velodrome Cipale.
https://www.facebook.com/SauvonsLaCipale
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby david.w.kimber » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:43 pm

I have an 1919 Excelsior Big X pace bike with the 2nd restoration just about completed. It was owned by Bob Finlay, the "prince of the pacemakers" and used to pace Opperman, Lamb, Armfield etc in races and record attempts in the 1920s and early 30s at the Melbourne Motordrome and Exhibition tracks. I am interested in tracing information, film footage and photos of pace racing of this era. If any-one knows the whereabout and any such material would be delighted to hear from them. Also looking for an early pace bicycle to match the motor bike.

PS how do I insert photos into a reply?
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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby brentono » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:19 am

david.w.kimber wrote:

PS how do I insert photos into a reply?


David, Just hit "post reply". Then hit the "Img" button, and insert link (maybe host at photobucket?)

Here's a couple photos on Oppy to get you started, and a good link to a Blog of bike source (maybe can help?)
Cheers
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http://melbourneourhome.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/restoring-little-of-cycling-history.html

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Re: Cool track photo thread

Postby david.w.kimber » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:33 pm

Thanks for these - I have copies of them. Also thanks for link to Leon Sims blog - of considerable interest. I have just got Jpg photos in iphoto on my apple. Do I need to put them into a web site before showing here?
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