Aero vs Lightweight
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Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Jordan » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:33 pm
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:46 pm
How aero and light are you?
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Jordan » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:34 pm
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:44 pm
What bad things have you heard about the bikes you have mentioned in regards to climbing?.
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby TDC » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:10 pm
Historically the engine (ie rider) has a lot to do with the climbing ability of bikes.Jordan wrote:Well yeah, of course. Though I've heard bad things about the climbing abilities of the more Aero bikes, which is to be expected as it's not exactly the biggest part of the design brief. I like to think i'm pretty Aero and light 5'10" and 61kg
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Jordan » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:13 pm
In a perfect world, I would. But I'm more after something that will perform as well as possible at both. Nothing bad really, just that they lack the climbing ability in comparison to lightweight or more conventional bikestoolonglegs wrote:Suppose it depends what sort of riding you do then... for Strava climbing KOM's go light, for racing go aero / stiff / light as poss.
What bad things have you heard about the bikes you have mentioned in regards to climbing?.
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:32 pm
I have neither a light or aero bike ... but it suits my abilities well.
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby wardie » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:06 pm
Maybe it doesn't climb well but I don't think I'd climb we'll on Cervelo's new 670g frame.
If I did a lot of crit racing on tight courses then I wouldn't ride my S2. Maybe better for longer road racing.
If you're not doing much racing of any kind then I don't think you can go wrong with a $6k budget.
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Shpox » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:40 pm
Weight seems to affect riders only in certain road conditions as it's not so much an issue when upto speed. This is all relative though.
The best combination is both. You don't want a wet noodle at the end of the day. A good look at something would be BMC's TMR01 I believe it's called. The same goes for Giant's propel/Scott Foil etc... They're not superlight builds at ~7.3-7.5 kg's.
As an avid climber myself, I'm personally interested in the Aero bikes much more than purely light builds - mainly because they're not heavy either so you get best of both worlds. I'd love to see a test between a lightweight bike and an Aero bike on hilly section of road.
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby theprophet » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:37 am
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Jordan » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:24 pm
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby TDC » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:41 pm
i didn't know they were good until a pro team started to use them.redcorpsjames wrote:I was never fan of meria road bikes til this year. Have look at this http://www.merida.com.au/2013-bikes/roa ... -team.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; so light . . .
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby toolonglegs » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:07 pm
What does it weigh?theprophet wrote:I am getting an S5 and its not a light bike but it still climbs exceptionally well because it has a really stiff bb area. and while it doesent feel light on the climbs it feels like all the power your putting in is getting to the road. It climbs well and handles brilliantly on the descents. I would reccomend it to pretty much anyone.
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Jordan » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:27 pm
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby toolonglegs » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:17 pm
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Jordan » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:38 pm
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby warthog1 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:26 pm
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Jordan » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:07 am
Nope. Just frame, forks, plug etc.toolonglegs wrote:That must be total bike weight.
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby redcorpsjames » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:18 am
big difference between the last year frame and this yearsTDC wrote:i didn't know they were good until a pro team started to use them.redcorpsjames wrote:I was never fan of meria road bikes til this year. Have look at this http://www.merida.com.au/2013-bikes/roa ... -team.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; so light . . .
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Jordan » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:15 pm
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Re: Aero vs Lightweight
Postby Xplora » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:47 pm
That said, the hallowed aero chart says that you'll get better speed gains from a skinsuit and shoe covers than the difference between a Venge and a Tarmac.
If I was in your situation, at your weight, I would definitely go light because you aren't big enough to generate the horsepower to make the difference. You're missing 30kgs of muscle to consider yourself focussed on aero at the expense of climbing power. You'd be better off sticking with a disc for TTs if you MUST get the aero... although you'd get better gains training with a power meter, for similar cost.
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