Cool track photo thread
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Re: Cool track photo thread
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:37 am
Here's an article about itbrentono wrote:Right Mike (and Derny)mikesbytes wrote:Isn't his bicycle somewhere in Sydney?
Seems Major Taylor's black bike he rode in 1903 and 1904- was owned by Jack Walsh.
(on display, but had sat unnoticed in Walsh's suburban cycling shop for 15 years in 2004)
As to where the bike is now? (Vale Jack Walsh- 2010)
After 1904, Taylor retired, for several years after the birth of his Daughter "Sydney" in Sydney.
His racing number was always 13, and although considered by many to be unlucky,
Taylor always insisted that promoters allot him the "devil's number" on the programme.
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby brentono » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:57 am
Thanks BFV, the info was from the dated (2004) article on the black bike.bigfriendlyvegan wrote: Here's an article about it
Actually-Taylor died a pauper in 1932 in Chicago. He was buried in an unmarked grave.
"May 23, 1948 -- A group of former pro bike racers,
with money donated by Schwinn Bicycle Co. owner Frank Schwinn,
had Taylor's remains exhumed and reburied in a more prominent part
of Mount Glenwood Cemetery in Illinois."
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:09 pm
And the monument states very clearly that Frank Schwinn donated the money. Athletes are even valuable marketing tools after they're dead, and even if they've never ridden your bikes.brentono wrote:Thanks BFV, the info was from the dated (2004) article on the black bike.bigfriendlyvegan wrote: Here's an article about itActually-Taylor died a pauper in 1932 in Chicago. He was buried in an unmarked grave.
"May 23, 1948 -- A group of former pro bike racers,
with money donated by Schwinn Bicycle Co. owner Frank Schwinn,
had Taylor's remains exhumed and reburied in a more prominent part
of Mount Glenwood Cemetery in Illinois."
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby brentono » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:37 pm
The black bike in Sydney was a Massey-Harris bicycle.Some former racing stars and members of the Olde Tymers Athletic Club
of the South Wabash Avenue YMCA persuaded Frank Schwinn,
owner of the Schwinn Bicycle Company, to pay to have Taylor’s remains exhumed
and transferred to a more fitting location—the cemetery’s Memorial Garden of the Good Shepherd.
There, a bronze tablet reads:
“Worlds champion bicycle racer who came up the hard way—Without hatred in his heart
—An honest, courageous and God-fearing, clean-living gentlemanly athlete.
A credit to his race who always gave out his best—Gone but not forgotten.”
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:20 pm
It may not be that one that I was referring to. I saw one last night that very clearly said something along the lines of "plaque donated by Frank Schwinn". When I read it, I thought it was a bit rude that Schwinn would put his name up there to associate himself with Taylor. When I find the image, I'll post it.brentono wrote:From the SmithsonianThe black bike in Sydney was a Massey-Harris bicycle.Some former racing stars and members of the Olde Tymers Athletic Club
of the South Wabash Avenue YMCA persuaded Frank Schwinn,
owner of the Schwinn Bicycle Company, to pay to have Taylor’s remains exhumed
and transferred to a more fitting location—the cemetery’s Memorial Garden of the Good Shepherd.
There, a bronze tablet reads:
“Worlds champion bicycle racer who came up the hard way—Without hatred in his heart
—An honest, courageous and God-fearing, clean-living gentlemanly athlete.
A credit to his race who always gave out his best—Gone but not forgotten.”
In the mean time, more info on the image I displayed before:
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby brentono » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:43 pm
(even after his mistreatment on his first trip, in 1903... same happened on his second trip)
By 1902 and 1903, Taylor was thinking of retiring even as the sport was declining in popularity. However, he agreed to a second lucrative Australian tour in 1904. This time, promoters invited his primary white rivals from the United States to make the competition more interesting. They used their typical tactics to block Taylor, while Australian racers saw no reason to cooperate with him to block some of these efforts since they would not share in Taylor's pay. In a match race in Melbourne, one of the rivals caused Taylor to crash, leaving him stunned, bruised, and lacerated.
These activities made Taylor all the more popular with the Australian public, which attended his events in great numbers. Over 32,000 people attended a race at the Sydney Cricket Ground. However, the experience left Taylor bitter. Not only were his competitors blocking him, but officials' decisions were frustrating him. Many of the races were "inconclusive, spoiled as they were by bad judges' decisions, refusals to appear, and the muddle of frequent official inquiries and the withholding of prize money." By the time Taylor left Australia, he had decided never to return:
Ultimately, the public were deeply disappointed by the disputes, the confusion, and the chaos that spoiled Australian bicycle racing that year and often made it impossible for Taylor to give the stunning performances for which he was noted. [Major Taylor , 143-144]
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Re: Cool track photo thread
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby Derny Driver » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:41 pm
My guess: 1969?brentono wrote:Skol 6 England (Promoter Aussie Ron Webb)
And L to R: Patrick Sercu, Klaus Bugdahl, Bill Lawrie, Graeme Gilmore ?
Dont know who the starter is UNFORTUNATELY
am I close?
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby brentono » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:15 am
Though this period is sparsely documented.
My guess is 1980. From Sercu jersey, vertical red and white.
Second from left for me, first thought, Rene Pijnen.
Other's? (Lawrie & Gilmore not there 79 or 80)
Starter, legs look familiar.
Here's another shot from series.
(My thoughts-Maurice Burton leading, Don Allan back 3rd, Tony James-w/Pijnen next and Sercu 8th)
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby siennatrack » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:26 pm
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby brentono » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:14 am
Know what you mean, mate, on Lycra. I only used woolen Gianni knicks.
The factory was in Milano, from memory? Anyway, visited there, had
bulk knicks, warmup pants, and woolen undershirts, that I carted around for years
(many new) and only got rid of them a few years ago. Gave them away.
May still have silks (most likely polyamide), maybe? though not sure.
I just caught the end of the "era" in the sport, so much of which passed, unrecorded.
Aussies in Europe, at that time, passed like ships in the night, it was tuff.
Don't forget Woolen Jerseys.
1976: Introduction of the Lycra® fabric in the production of cycling bib-shorts. Historically,
until this moment, the bib-shorts were produced with black coloured wool and equipped with leather paddings.
Santini promote this change and begin the production of the Lycra® bib-shorts
with antibacterial synthetic fabric chamois.
Around 1977 Castelli had released their first Lycra cycling short.
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Re: Cool track photo thread
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby foo on patrol » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:54 pm
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby wurtulla wabbit » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:58 pm
Awesome pins !brentono wrote:Skol 6 England (Promoter Aussie Ron Webb)
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby brentono » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:22 am
From it got the recent story on La Cipale, a track dear to my heart (longest straight in history)
here... Save the Velodrome Cipale.... with some views of the Track April 3, 2013 after sanding sessions.
The result of the work is excellent Steps will hold cleaning,
approval by the team of France (Florian Rousseau) and paint lines ..
https://www.facebook.com/SauvonsLaCipale
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby david.w.kimber » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:43 pm
PS how do I insert photos into a reply?
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Re: Cool track photo thread
Postby brentono » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:19 am
David, Just hit "post reply". Then hit the "Img" button, and insert link (maybe host at photobucket?)david.w.kimber wrote:
PS how do I insert photos into a reply?
Here's a couple photos on Oppy to get you started, and a good link to a Blog of bike source (maybe can help?)
Cheers
http://melbourneourhome.blogspot.com.au ... story.html
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Re: Cool track photo thread
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