Multi hand position
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Multi hand position
Postby thejester » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:15 pm
This argument is irrelevant when discussing pro's and con's of flat bars and drop bars and it is [mod=mikesbytes]bad language removed[/mod] me off that people keep crapping on with it.
For 5 years I rode a flatbar without bar ends with no issues for my hands, shoulders, elbows, wrists, fingers etc. Yes I changed my grips to ones with palm rests, but that was really upgraditis than necessity and did not increase the number of hand positions.
NOW, I have a drop bar bike and find myself shuffling all over the bars looking for comfort.. WAIT..FINISH READING... I am playing with the set up of the bike to get it perfect, using different stem lengths and angles and expect that eventually I will be perfectly happy with just the hoods and drops.
Really!!!...
I can accept "natural alignment of hands", and "compressing of shoulder blades due to wide bars", but "multiple hand positions" that just [mod=mikesbytes]Bad language removed[/mod] ME!!
Buy a EFF'N bike that fits.
Rant finished.. soapbox kicked back under bed.. sorry
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby human909 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:22 pm
I took like using multiple hand positions on my roadbike, it is great for comfort.
However on my mountain bike & my flat-bar commuter I never feel the need for multiple hand positions because my one hand position is comfortable and more so than anything a drop bar gives! A big factor is that you generally have more weight on your hands when using a drop bar!
It varies, but I am probably 50% drop bar, 50% flat bar usage at the moment. One of the perks of having a large number of bikes!
This morning I chose my road bike and SPD sandals!
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby zero » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:24 pm
I have 3 hand positions on my roadbike.
Drops. Adjusting my sunnies, and holding the bidon
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby il padrone » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:29 pm
I believe that varying hand position becomes more of an issue when you are moving further forward in a crouched position, as more weight gets taken on your hands. If you are siting in an upright position it really does not matter.
I've ridden touring distances of 80-100km in a day on this bike, and been perfectly comfortable with just riding on the grips. You sit up, enjoy the view and there is no pressure on the palms at all.
I will be starting out with some riding on this bike in the next few days. Hopefully it will be easier on my recovering collar-bone.
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Re: Multi hand position B-S!!
Postby il padrone » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:46 pm
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby mikesbytes » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:16 pm
Edit: I've removed the slang from the title
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby RonK » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:30 pm
1,2...99,100 - change hands...thejester wrote:
This argument is irrelevant when discussing pro's and con's of flat bars and drop bars and it is [mod=mikesbytes]bad language removed[/mod] me off that people keep crapping on with it.
For 5 years I rode a flatbar without bar ends with no issues for my hands, shoulders, elbows, wrists, fingers etc. Yes I changed my grips to ones with palm rests, but that was really upgraditis than necessity and did not increase the number of hand positions.
NOW, I have a drop bar bike and find myself shuffling all over the bars looking for comfort.. WAIT..FINISH READING... I am playing with the set up of the bike to get it perfect, using different stem lengths and angles and expect that eventually I will be perfectly happy with just the hoods and drops.
Really!!!...
I can accept "natural alignment of hands", and "compressing of shoulder blades due to wide bars", but "multiple hand positions" that just [mod=mikesbytes]Bad language removed[/mod] ME!!
Buy a EFF'N bike that fits.
Rant finished.. soapbox kicked back under bed.. sorry
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby clackers » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:28 pm
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby Summernight » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:31 pm
+1clackers wrote:Obviously the flat bar position is similar to riding on the tops, but on a drop bar I find the hoods with the V of the hands pointing forwarded to be a very natural (and unstrained) position.
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby sogood » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:56 pm
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby human909 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:51 pm
I think the point being made by many is that it isn't! Flat bar is significantly different from riding on the tops!clackers wrote:Obviously the flat bar position is similar to riding on the tops
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby il padrone » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:59 pm
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby LM324 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:46 pm
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby warthog1 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:54 pm
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby clackers » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:12 am
I don't find that, H909. Other than width, it's the same. And I ride dropbar, flatbar, and flatbar with bar ends.human909 wrote: Flat bar is significantly different from riding on the tops!
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby Xplora » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:28 pm
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby il padrone » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:05 pm
Hmm..... Agressive, low position, aero, big kms, going faster..............Xplora wrote:You've got to have the bike sizing, fit and fitness/ability to cope with the positions that road bikes present. It's go down low and go go go, not sit down and shut up. Drop bars are comfortable for that particular style of riding. MTB geometry's idea of aggressive is laughable compared to the inhuman crit and TT geometries that many consider normal. I am under no illusion that it took a while for me to cope with big kms using drops... but the aero benefits are just too big for me to enjoy going back... but I like going faster than most MTB guys I guess
How does Perth-Sydney in 11 days sound?? Do a 1200km Audax out of Hopetoun, western Victorian Mallee, then ride home after it...... to Canberra??
Say g'day to Peter Heal's ride, the M5 carbon. Just the one hand position
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby Xplora » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:52 am
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Re: Multi hand position
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby Lurkin » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:09 pm
Goodbye expensive gloves, wriggling for postion.
Win.
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Re: Multi hand position
Postby AndrewBurns » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:24 pm
I find my drop bar bikes extremely comfortable, so there? Your argument doesn't follow any logical structure and you present a sample size of 1, at least you're honest about calling it a rant but ranting is generally what irrational people do and certainly nobody is going to change opinions with one.thejester wrote:
This argument is irrelevant when discussing pro's and con's of flat bars and drop bars and it is [mod=mikesbytes]bad language removed[/mod] me off that people keep crapping on with it.
For 5 years I rode a flatbar without bar ends with no issues for my hands, shoulders, elbows, wrists, fingers etc. Yes I changed my grips to ones with palm rests, but that was really upgraditis than necessity and did not increase the number of hand positions.
NOW, I have a drop bar bike and find myself shuffling all over the bars looking for comfort.. WAIT..FINISH READING... I am playing with the set up of the bike to get it perfect, using different stem lengths and angles and expect that eventually I will be perfectly happy with just the hoods and drops.
Really!!!...
I can accept "natural alignment of hands", and "compressing of shoulder blades due to wide bars", but "multiple hand positions" that just [mod=mikesbytes]Bad language removed[/mod] ME!!
Buy a EFF'N bike that fits.
Rant finished.. soapbox kicked back under bed.. sorry
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