Wall collapse at old CUB site
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Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby find_bruce » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:23 pm
The pics show a pile of bricks across the bike path, so I hope no cyclists were among the dead or injured
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Postby kukamunga » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:57 pm
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Postby il padrone » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:49 pm
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Postby kukamunga » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:50 pm
I kept hearing quotes on the news along the lines of "the victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time", as if they were to blame in some way
Sorry.... this dangerously unstable wall was in the wrong place - right next to a public thoroughfare. When did "the world's most liveable city" suddenly become a third-world country with no Public & OH&S standards??? "Freak gust of wind" my foot - Grocon are in deep !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! (but I'm sure their lawyers are already onto it)
This tragedy should never have happened!!!
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Postby Jimbobtwoshoes » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:42 pm
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby il padrone » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:08 pm
This would be very damning for Heritage Victoria if it is actually the true situation.Jimbobtwoshoes wrote:The wall from my understanding was heritage listed so they could not knock it down
In no situation should heritage values be allowed to over-ride public safety.
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby Apple » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:29 pm
I agree I think this is a very sad story to read and very upsetting.il padrone wrote:This would be very damning for Heritage Victoria if it is actually the true situation.Jimbobtwoshoes wrote:The wall from my understanding was heritage listed so they could not knock it down
In no situation should heritage values be allowed to over-ride public safety.
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby gabrielle260 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:42 pm
So sad....
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby il padrone » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:27 pm
Without such piers the wall is a severe public hazard, particularly if old; particularly if it's 3m high. Some walls do get built without such piers. In my opinion they should be demolished at the first opportunity. It will be very interesting to learn whether this old wall had these piers, or whether it was an old unsupported single-brick structure that had been left as the 'fence' to their property. A time-bomb waiting for the right gust of wind.
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby il padrone » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:59 pm
Brother deceased, saved his sister, critically injured
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby Apple » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:01 pm
So very upsetting, those young lives lost and for the parents.il padrone wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victi ... 2gyzb.html
Brother deceased, saved his sister, critically injured
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby warthog1 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:10 pm
What a son to be proud of. Made me cry reading that.il padrone wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victi ... 2gyzb.html
Brother deceased, saved his sister, critically injured
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby sogood » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:55 pm
True that a brick dropped from a height of 3m can be a serious hit. But still, to get killed needs to be a pretty solid hit on the head. Given how a brick wall would collapse, if the victim was close to the base of the wall and reacted by tucking against the wall, most of the bricks would have passed overhead or not have the energy of a 3m free fall. If the victim was a little further out on the footpath, the head may have been spared. Very unfortunate and sad outcome. Hopefully the building industry would learn from it and there won't be any repeats.kukamunga wrote:Try dropping one brick onto your head from an outstretched arm above your head...
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby gabrielle260 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:06 pm
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby jules21 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:27 pm
i've noticed a disturbing trend for some people to exploit personal losses of others for their own political or ideological gain. aside from having nothing to do with cycling, it would be better to wait for the full facts to be established, before pointing fingers, even at union-busting privately owned companies.kukamunga wrote:Grocon owned this 3m wall. They built and/or own the tallest buildings in Melbourne, and want to build taller. Stand back, folks.....
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Re: Wall collapse at old CUB site
Postby il padrone » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:56 pm
I think that some level of action may be warranted ahead of an inquest that may be months away.
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