Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
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Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby FXST01 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:02 am
CYCLISTS would be fined for exceeding 10km/h speed limits on shared pathways under a plan to crack down on unsafe riding practices.
Shared cycle paths should be renamed "pedestrian priority zones", widened and cameras installed to catch speeding cyclists, Australian Pedestrian Council chairman Harold Scruby told the fourth Road Safety International Conference in Sydney.
Mr Scruby said "80 to 90 per cent of people don't want cyclists" where pedestrians walk.
"These shared paths should be 10km/h regulated ... and should be insured so that if they (cyclists) hit someone they have some protection," he said.
Inspector Phil Brooks, from the traffic and highway command, refused to say whether NSW police would consider turning their radars on speeding cyclists, pointing out there had been a significant drop in the number of accidents between riders and walkers.
"Since the (CBD motorcycle response) team commenced operations on August 1, 2012, serious injury and fatal crashes involving pedestrians and cyclists have dropped from 340 incidents down to 274 compared to the same period 12 months earlier," he said.
But advocates of similar programs said enforced speed limits on shared footpaths had led to a decrease in aggression between walkers and riders.
On Pyrmont Bridge, a council ranger is regularly present to flag speeding cyclists down with a baton in order to protect pedestrians.
"We have a 10km/h limit on the bridge," a spokesman for the Sydney Harbour Foreshore Authority said.
"If cyclists are going a bit quick, our rangers tell them to slow down and take care to protect pedestrians.
"We've come to a good agreement with both groups who use the bridge. I think we've got the balance right."
Last year, The Sunday Telegraph witnessed cyclists riding on the shared footpath of the Anzac Bridge at more than 40km/h, with one hitting 47km/h.
Mr Scruby said excessive speeds combined with narrow paths, such as the Spit Bridge's 1.2m-wide shared path, put cyclists and pedestrians at risk.
"It's not even safe for cyclists," Mr Scruby said. "Imagine if you clipped the metal railings with your pedal."
The term "shared paths" should be changed to "pedestrian priority zones" to ensure cyclists were aware they had to give way to pedestrians, he said.
"Cyclists are required to give way to pedestrians, even if that means coming to a complete stop, but I don't think many cyclists are aware of that."
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Postby warthog1 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:02 am
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby il padrone » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:09 am
Like we sure see lots of cyclists exceeding the speed limit
Mind you, it'll be those same worried pedestrians who are out there, breaking the speed limits, squeezing red lights and crossing double lines on the road.
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:31 am
I guess many pedestrians don't know it's illegal to jay-walk neither. idiot!
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:06 am
Won't somebody PLEASE take him for a ride? Doesn't have to be a bike...
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby lump_a_charcoal » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:39 am
Fikst.Mulger bill wrote:
Won't somebody PLEASE take him for a long drive?
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby TimW » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:03 pm
You sure about that??jasonc wrote:say for a second it is a real article. police are only authorised to use radar guns on roads. not shared paths.
Not the case in NSW
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby il padrone » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:12 pm
Despite some shopping centre car-parks having this ludicrous sign which no-one obeys:
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby lump_a_charcoal » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:18 pm
Also, how can you know what speed you are going with no speedo?
Seems the UCI also want in on it.
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/ro ... gram-limit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby TimW » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:21 pm
be interested to see where the legislation applying to that one is.speed limits in NSW can only be enforced by police if they are 40kph or greater
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby jasonc » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:54 pm
got a mate in the traffic squad who says soTimW wrote:You sure about that??jasonc wrote:say for a second it is a real article. police are only authorised to use radar guns on roads. not shared paths.
Not the case in NSW
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby TimW » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:57 pm
must be right then if a mate told youjasonc wrote:got a mate in the traffic squad who says soTimW wrote:You sure about that??jasonc wrote:say for a second it is a real article. police are only authorised to use radar guns on roads. not shared paths.
Not the case in NSW
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby il padrone » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:58 pm
Now that one truly is an April Fool's jokelump_a_charcoal wrote:Seems the UCI also want in on it.
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/ro ... gram-limit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:45 pm
I average 12kph on paths. And I ride a samll ungeared unicycle!skull wrote:10km/h ? I run faster then that.
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But don't take Harald Scruby seriously. Few other people do.
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Re: Conference hears plan to crack down on speeding cyclists
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:47 pm
Probably not - You don't appear to be aware of Harald Scruby. Spelt T.W.A.T.jcjordan wrote:Um guys check the date, looks like you got fooled
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Harald Scruby trots this stuff out every day of the year. This proposal of his is not new. http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images ... ralia.pdf
He did present a paper "The road is too dangerous to share" in a panel session on a panel on "Vulnerable road users" at the conference. Presumably he raised it again there.
Although why it took three weeks for this article to appear is curious. Perhaps it is only on April Fools day that any serious journalist will bother to listen to him.
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