Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby warthog1 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:18 pm
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby Nobody » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:55 pm
But for a commuter, you may not need a thin, light one either.Uncle Just wrote:You may not need a heavy, wide saddle like the "Bricks" to get comfy.
Both IP and MB at least would disagree with you.warthog1 wrote:That would be none if you have any sort of an aggressive aero ride position with a decent saddle to handlebar drop.Nobody wrote:As RonK said above, it really depends how forward your body is angled (which is often a function of saddle to bar drop and effective reach) as to which Brooks is the closest fit for you.
I have about a 45 degree body angle, so not super aero and admitedly I may try a SMP or other bit of plastic if I was going for the super_racer_boy, I_think_I'm_a_pro, ITT position or look.
More to to do with a strong adherence to fashion and WWism in the roadie world than any real reason. As long as it looks good and weighs nothing, eh?warthog1 wrote:Never seen one on a race bike for that reason, that and the sheer butt ugliness of them
You just need to get around more. Plenty of people on SC like them, not that I'm an advocate yet.warthog1 wrote:I understand there are some on here who use them but never seen one on any bike myself, well for any length of time anywayNobody wrote:Another popular option for road bikes in particular are the Selle SMP saddles.
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No, you just need to wear a pad on your butt to make up for whatever is lacking with that saddle.warthog1 wrote:This is what works for me;...
and guess what, you just wack it on there and ride the bike in any weather conditions. No massaging it with wax or KY or whatever brooks owners like to rub on their bottoms
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby warthog1 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:04 pm
It works for 3 or 4 hours which is all I need, haven't tried any longer as I'm not into touring. My Fizik arione, a saddle which many people hate, does also . Maybe one day I'll try a brooks but haven't needed to yet.Nobody wrote:No, you just need to wear a pad on your butt to make up for whatever is lacking with that saddle.
Until then it's a bit of fun stirring the Brooks disciples
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby il padrone » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:10 pm
Hmm... not sure what you're getting at with your photos there. Yes, Brooks saddles do mould to your shape. And yes, some people abuse their saddles, some ride them when wet, don't proof them and cover them if left out in the weather. Care of a leather saddle sure ain't rocket science.warthog1 wrote:Apparently Brooks saddles mould to the shape of their owners bottoms. They are a tried and true design with proven workmanship and quality
No idea what you think the dismantling photos show about disadvantages of a Brooks?? Some people play about to modify them - seems the owner of your first photo tried to tie the mid-section sides with a riveted plate that led to failure. If any of the framework breaks they are rebuildable, everything except the leather can be replaced.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:19 pm
Even the leather if you are that way inclined Ask Clydesdale Scot.il padrone wrote:warthog1 wrote:No idea what you think the dismantling photos show about disadvantages of a Brooks?? Some people play about to modify them and they are rebuildable, everything except the leather can be replaced.
I love the dimples on my Brooks
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:24 pm
Every one has been comfy from the get go.
The only Brooks I ever had issues with was a 1960's B17 flyer track saddle. It was just to narrow for my child bearing hips.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby Nobody » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:27 pm
This bit is true to a large degree. If you tried one for a while, you might know about it.warthog1 wrote:Apparently Brooks saddles mould to the shape of their owners bottoms.
Just face it, you're outnumbered here. Time to retreat to one of those roadie rides where you can all talk about important things like:
weight
carbon
bling/looks/image
aero
PEDs
training
shaving legs
bike cleaning etc.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby warthog1 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:34 pm
Just pointing out what a pain in the posterior they are. Fragile finicky looking things to me. Those saddles look pretty damn broken to me, dismantled or not.il padrone wrote:Hmm... not sure what you're getting at with your photos there. Yes, Brooks saddles do mould to your shape. And yes, some people abuse their saddles, some ride them when wet, don't proof them and cover them if left out in the weather. Care of a leather saddle sure ain't rocket science.warthog1 wrote:Apparently Brooks saddles mould to the shape of their owners bottoms. They are a tried and true design with proven workmanship and quality
No idea what you think the dismantling photos show about disadvantages of a Brooks?? Some people play about to modify them - seems the owner of your first photo tried to tie the mid-section sides with a riveted plate that led to failure. If any of the framework breaks they are rebuildable, everything except the leather can be replaced.
Just buy a saddle that doesn't need breaking in and can be placed on the bike and forgotten about.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby warthog1 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:36 pm
You forgot sheer fitting Lycra, though I spose that comes under aeroNobody wrote:This bit is true to a large degree. If you tried one for a while, you might know about it.warthog1 wrote:Apparently Brooks saddles mould to the shape of their owners bottoms.
Just face it, you're outnumbered here. Time to retreat to one of those roadie rides where you can all talk about important things like:
weight
carbon
bling/looks/image
aero
PEDs
training
shaving legs
bike cleaning etc.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby Nobody » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:54 pm
It comes under bling/looks/image too.warthog1 wrote:You forgot sheer fitting Lycra, though I spose that comes under aero
Not much fun in that. Next you'll be wanting to own a hub geared, belt drive bike with HD butyl tubes so you only have to pump the tyres once a month.warthog1 wrote:Just buy a saddle that doesn't need breaking in and can be placed on the bike and forgotten about.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby DavidS » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:10 am
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby il padrone » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:10 am
Far from that. Very comfy for my posterior thankswarthog1 wrote:Just pointing out what a pain in the posterior they are.
Hmm.... I just get on mine and ride it. Like I said earlier, the special care probably amounts to 20 mins max, twice a year; plus bothering to cover it when the bike gets left outside overnight, usually on my bush camping trips.warthog1 wrote:Fragile finicky looking things to me.
Neglect busts most things. How do you go on your bling carbonio roadie at riding a simple 20kms of dirt road ? Is the plastic fantastic Selle Italia nice to your toosh then ?warthog1 wrote:Those saddles look pretty damn broken to me, dismantled or not.
Just buy a saddle that doesn't need breaking in and can be placed on the bike and forgotten about.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby singlespeedscott » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:11 am
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby Nobody » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:59 am
Do you really think he would ride that blinger crabonio thingy on dirt roads? It's too precious.il padrone wrote:How do you go on your bling carbonio roadie at riding a simple 20kms of dirt road ? Is the plastic fantastic Selle Italia nice to your toosh then ?
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby Dan » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:20 am
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby warthog1 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:28 am
A leather love in. They'll have the wax protectants out for a group massage shortlyDan wrote:I'm late - what'd I miss?
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby warthog1 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:30 am
Spot on. As you know it would spontaneously explode and I'd be left with a sturdy, light and comfortable saddle onlyNobody wrote:Do you really think he would ride that blinger crabonio thingy on dirt roads? It's too precious.il padrone wrote:How do you go on your bling carbonio roadie at riding a simple 20kms of dirt road ? Is the plastic fantastic Selle Italia nice to your toosh then ?
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby The Walrus » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:56 am
I only wish it was that easy!warthog1 wrote: Just buy a saddle that doesn't need breaking in and can be placed on the bike and forgotten about.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby warthog1 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:31 am
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby evangelion » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:16 pm
Based on the single ride that I had on it (exact same route) I can say that this saddle is much more comfortable than that velo/fizik... No crippling soreness/tightness/pain. Infact went for another smaller ride next day with no major issues.
So, so far so good but I need longer rides to suss it out more.
Still thinking from sheer comfort view point that the Serfas RX-921 would be hard to beat if it could work with drop down road bike.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby warthog1 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:30 pm
I'll see how that ribble steel frame goes, might be passable on that.Mulger bill wrote:The only encouragement a Brooks rider needs is the initial push to get them to try "The Way". Once experienced, few go back.
The flite max is seriously comfortable for me, though it is starting to look haggard after over 40k. I'm still dubious about all that upward tilt business with a decent low position.
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby il padrone » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:31 pm
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby rifraf » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:20 pm
Just the right addition to my Surly Ogre build. My Moulton has a B17 Special after I swapped it because I couldnt get on with my Brooks Swift.
The Moulton had a Brooks B73 for many years but I wanted to try lightening my heavy small bike and the B73 weighed over a kilo. I'm hoping the superior aesthetics of
the Flyer Special is combined with some of the B73's sprung comfort.
(Pic from one of IP's posts - flagrantly stolen )
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Re: Recommend MOST comfortable saddle commuting Road Bike
Postby The Walrus » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:48 am
Is this true? I'm seriously considering one after having tried most/all the Specialized range with no luck.
I've got another brand or two to try yet but test saddles are limited around here so I'm not hopeful and it seems few buy Brooks and complain!
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