Is it? Please enlighten me.Percrime wrote: Seriously? Prove a video has been unaltered? Easy peasy. Hell North Korea cant do it. Penthouse magazine cant do it on a still image.
Moron Motorists #3
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Postby leighthebee » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:24 pm
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby leighthebee » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:36 pm
As for the video, it's clearly visible for an Internet forum to be judge and jury, but not much else.
Like I said, I'm not condoning this drivers behaviour, but it's not quite so cut and dried....
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby jules21 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:39 pm
tell me more about these still images...Percrime wrote:Seriously? Prove a video has been unaltered? Easy peasy. Hell North Korea cant do it. Penthouse magazine cant do it on a still image.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby il padrone » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:08 pm
Standard motorist behaviour - 'change lanes' but neglect to actually get into the lane being changed into ie. they do not change lanes but rather drive along the lane line.leighthebee wrote:Or were they changing lanes? I'm not familiar with Vic road rules, however does an offence need to be committed for this "who was driving" offence to be a lawful requirement or just if police are investigating a reasonable suspicion.
Rule 146 - note overtaking a cyclist does not constitute avoiding an 'obstruction' , we are traffic.
Victorian Road Rules wrote:Division 4—Driving in marked lanes or lines of traffic
146 Driving within a single marked lane or line of traffic
(1) A driver on a multi-lane road must drive so the driver's vehicle is completely in a marked lane, unless the driver is—
(a) entering a part of the road of one kind from a part of the road of another kind (for example, moving to or from a service road or a shoulder of the road); or
(b) entering or leaving the road; or
(c) moving from one marked lane to another marked lane; or
(d) avoiding an obstruction; or
(e) obeying a traffic control device applying to the marked lane; or
(f) permitted to drive in more than one marked lane under another provision of these Rules.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby InTheWoods » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:19 pm
I've fought this one up here in queensland and lostil padrone wrote:Standard motorist behaviour - 'change lanes' but neglect to actually get into the lane being changed into ie. they do not change lanes but rather drive along the lane line.leighthebee wrote:Or were they changing lanes? I'm not familiar with Vic road rules, however does an offence need to be committed for this "who was driving" offence to be a lawful requirement or just if police are investigating a reasonable suspicion.
Rule 146 - note overtaking a cyclist does not constitute avoiding an 'obstruction' , we are traffic.
Victorian Road Rules wrote:Division 4—Driving in marked lanes or lines of traffic
146 Driving within a single marked lane or line of traffic
(1) A driver on a multi-lane road must drive so the driver's vehicle is completely in a marked lane, unless the driver is—
(a) entering a part of the road of one kind from a part of the road of another kind (for example, moving to or from a service road or a shoulder of the road); or
(b) entering or leaving the road; or
(c) moving from one marked lane to another marked lane; or
(d) avoiding an obstruction; or
(e) obeying a traffic control device applying to the marked lane; or
(f) permitted to drive in more than one marked lane under another provision of these Rules.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:23 pm
(c) moving from one marked lane to another marked lane
They just changed their mind half way.
Not everybody fully comprehends the size of their car and fewer consider the mirrors.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby AKO » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:12 pm
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Postby hannos » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:28 pm
AKO wrote:An update on my close shave last week. The officer I spoke to left a note in my letter box while I was out this morning. I just got back from the station and things are looking up. He has looked at the video and agreed with me that it was a dangerous and stupid pass. He is going to speak to the owner but reiterated that he may not end up being charged with anything.
Sometimes that's enough to make them pull their head in.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby AKO » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:41 pm
And that would sit comfortably with me. This idiot will shortly be aware that some cyclists are videoing their rides and that stupid and dangerous acts are being reported.hannos wrote:AKO wrote:An update on my close shave last week. The officer I spoke to left a note in my letter box while I was out this morning. I just got back from the station and things are looking up. He has looked at the video and agreed with me that it was a dangerous and stupid pass. He is going to speak to the owner but reiterated that he may not end up being charged with anything.
Sometimes that's enough to make them pull their head in.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Summernight » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:59 pm
Exactly!AKO wrote:And that would sit comfortably with me. This idiot will shortly be aware that some cyclists are videoing their rides and that stupid and dangerous acts are being reported.
From the 2nd of April (pass at 0.11):
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby birdbrain » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:38 pm
I only read it for the gardening tips.Percrime wrote:
Seriously? Prove a video has been unaltered? Easy peasy. Hell North Korea cant do it. Penthouse magazine cant do it on a still image.
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Postby KonaCommuter » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:03 pm
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby rustychisel » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:22 pm
Summernight wrote:
Jiminy cricket! The noise, not the close pass.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Summernight » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:45 pm
The rattle? I think it is the lanyard connector (which is metal). I've put a rubber bit around it now so hopefully it will not make that noise (I'll see tomorrow). Also the GoPro chest mount apparently may have rattling noises inherent in it. I could overlay a cute song if that'd be better? Looking forward to getting the k-Edge handlebar mount to reattach it to the bar. Not a fan of the chest view - at the critical point in a video where I'd get a plate on video my arm always gets in the way.rustychisel wrote:Summernight wrote:
Jiminy cricket! The noise, not the close pass.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby trailgumby » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:19 pm
Scooter riders are pretty ignorant, They really have no idea.
Unfortunately it seems motorbike riders are learning from their bad example.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby redned » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:22 pm
I only read it for the gardening tips.[/quote]birdbrain wrote:Penthouse magazine cant do it on a still image.
Yeh, me to.
Oh, tips. Those to.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Lukeyboy » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:15 pm
redned wrote:Yeh, me to.
Oh, tips. Those to.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby outnabike » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:23 pm
Thanks to all who expressed concern over this incident and in particular Percrime, for the analysis of the number.
With the slightly more clear pics at home I actually thought the front number was an N, as the sun just makes a bit of shadow across it.
I will now re submit the facts and see if I can get this driver talked to. I don't expect more than that but it would be a reminder to them that they cant get away with every thing. I will submit my version of the plate with out any extraneous information such as engine numbers or anything else, and see how I go.
What I will do is face the Springvale HQ of the Highway Patrol personally and try again. Harder for them to fob me off if they ascertain that the rego as on the ball I would say.
I have seen this car around or similar so will have to check it out. At least I have a starting point now.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Percrime » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:50 pm
http://vre.vicroads.vic.gov.au/TermsAndConditions.aspx
THere you go.
If you want to email me the best original pic of the plate. In original res.. but you can crop it to be maybe 3 times the plate in every direction.. I have some software that MIGHT do a better job of pulling the number back
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby warthog1 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:42 pm
I liked the bit at the end and the Kona Glove protection factorKonaCommuter wrote:I do swear on this video but it's <inaudible>
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby KonaCommuter » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:50 pm
KonaCommuter wrote:I do swear on this video but it's <inaudible>
That was yesterday. Today I rode wider to discourage similar behaviour and the video below shows what happened. Fair warning - there's an awesome song that I like playing over my video
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby zero » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:18 pm
In a real sense he has also transferred the risk of the move away from you and onto him, because he is now on the wrong side of the road, which means he may improve his driving in the future - ie only perform overtaking moves when there is more distance to the corner. Drivers that are able to cut off cyclists completely never learn from it, because there is no negative feedback to them unless you drag them out of the car at the next set of lights and beat the living daylights out of them.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Big_Red » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:41 pm
BTW, Faith No More rocks, slip any song of theirs in your vids anytime. I prefer the live version of Epic though....
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby outnabike » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:43 pm
Thanks mate , It seems as though blowing it up just disperses the pixels and makes it even harder to read. The view in the post actually is the best pic to get a reading from.I am pretty well convinced that you nailed it.Percrime wrote:Well you can run that version of the 4 numbers through the DB yourself see what you get
http://vre.vicroads.vic.gov.au/TermsAndConditions.aspx
THere you go.
If you want to email me the best original pic of the plate. In original res.. but you can crop it to be maybe 3 times the plate in every direction.. I have some software that MIGHT do a better job of pulling the number back
I hope the police will confirm that the said vehicle will be local to me.The camera is a Sony and pretty low res. Pretty lucky to get what I did with all the whit overexposing the shot.
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