Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby bicyclepassion » Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:45 pm
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Gazz » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:12 pm
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Gazz » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:14 pm
The s/n for the Swansea 4 Swan is 11620
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby groovedwarepeople » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:54 pm
Anyway, back to the bike, there are no numbers on the rear cutouts, just what looks like the letter "z" on the bottom of the crank hub and the number "2" on the bottom of the left rear tube next to the crank hub. The frame has the lugs for a pump, holes for brake mounts but no provision for mudguards. The crank gear is held on by five square headed screws (for quicker gear changeover??) Unfortunately, the bike is missing a lot of parts but I still have the original wheels (steel 28"), the handlebars (no headstem), the cranks (nickel plated with a symbol I can't make out and the letters "USA" underneath.
The remains of the bike has never been repainted but is in very poor condition. Any help would be appreciated.
Mark
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Torana68 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:52 am
the description could fit a 60's/70's bike so we need photos, put some on photobucket and post links.groovedwarepeople wrote:
The remains of the bike has never been repainted but is in very poor condition. Any help would be appreciated.
Mark
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby groovedwarepeople » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:01 pm
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby groovedwarepeople » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:15 pm
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Torana68 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:39 pm
Two Star Malvern Star "Superlite"
the frame has been refinieshed , thats a Speedwell Superlite decal
with Tour de France front forks.
not sure if those are the original , Warren will be here soon but those are just stockish forks, its a pre war frame but thats as far as Im going The chance of finding a superlite decal is minimal but try GTS753 on Ebay, he doesnt do them as yet but may be able to.
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby groovedwarepeople » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:04 pm
As for the forks, I personally wouldn't know if they are Tour de France or not. However, I used to have another old Malvern Star road bike frame (model?? but long gone now) and the sweep on those forks was nowhere near as far forward as the ones on this bike.
Any views about the frame number? It seems strange that there is only that 'Z' marking and the number 2 stamped on the hub and nothing in any of the normal places.
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby bicyclepassion » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:16 am
Cam stops in rear ends: Phased out approx 1934
Stars in fork crown: Introduced 1933
Key hole lugs: Suggests it is one of the better models.
BSA fluted cranks: Introduced early 1930's. but uncommon and expensive until say 1935. I think they are a later edition to this bike.
28" wheels: Phased out mid 1930's on racing models, late 1930's on sports models.
Forks: Would appear to be correct for that frame.
Frame numbers: The '2' is a casting number (I think), the Z is an N , and possibly an enamellers mark, to identify the frame when repainted. It is usually repeated on the fork steerer, so they dont get things mixed up.
Decals: Malvern Star did not use the 'scroll' decal on the main bar until 1930. That one is done with a stencil maybe, by the enameller, but I doubt anyone would have had a scroll stencil prior to 1939. They used the scroll before that in advertising etc. So maybe repainted in 1939/40?
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Does it have 'clip head' type head fittings?
On what I can see there, the frame matches the features of the 'Oppy model' from the 1933 catalogue. (It had a clip head, and 28" Endrick rims, nickel plated.)
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby rollin » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:17 pm
Any idea on seat lug serial 162575
Flared head tube
Bolt on rear end
28" rims and bb oiler
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Pushie Pirate » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:14 pm
love to date it the only number on it I can find on the seat post.
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby SewJillian » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:04 pm
I just dug out what appears to have been my Grandfather's bike from my brother's garage. The decals are all but worn off but appear to be Malvern Star. The serial number we found was under the bottom bracket, Z30967. Any idea of it's age or if the sequence matches MS serial number sequencing? It is a ladies step through single speed with pedal brakes (back pedal to brake) only. Thanks!
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Torana68 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:58 pm
we need photos, put some on photobucket and post links
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby SewJillian » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:34 am
Photos at Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jillianlan ... 311849769/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks in advance
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Gazz » Wed May 01, 2013 6:26 pm
Regarding the Frame with serial number P10630 earlier in the thread that you asked to me to look at the BB for a stamp BSA, it has nothing stamped. The Headset or the BB gear has nothing marked as BSA.
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby bicyclepassion » Tue May 21, 2013 8:22 am
Does it have:
BSA embossed under BB shell?
27" or 28" wheels?
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Gazz » Wed May 22, 2013 2:01 pm
Warren,
This is all I have at the moment. The bike has gone to my brother and I will let him know to keep care of it and it's age.
It has had a repaint like many of my Grandfathers and other family members bikes. It was painted by my 3rd cousin Nelsen Smith who was a 1st cousin of Oppy. He was a very good painter for Malvern Star. He has painted our family name Hartley onto a lot of the frames. I believe the wheels are 27" and I'm not sure on the sticker on the downbar. I checked for the BSA embossed under the BB shell and nothing.
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Gazz » Wed May 22, 2013 2:20 pm
Would you happen to know anything about this frame below. It is not a Malvern Star and we believe my Grandfather may have bought it out from England. The forks are not original, but may be in his other shed. The only thing that may help with this frame is the number under the BB. Any clues would be nice
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby bicyclepassion » Thu May 23, 2013 12:11 pm
The paint jobs are great!
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers
Postby Gazz » Thu May 23, 2013 3:47 pm
Next time I'm up at the holiday home I'll check. He has a pile of old rims I can check through. My Grandfather did like to buy bicycles and parts and was still riding this bike 10mile a day at 102.
Gary
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