Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby Crawf » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:45 am
Toing and froing at the moment whether to sell them and look at the 25mm, if of course they genuinely have a decent internal width.
These were supposed to be race wheels so I really wanted wider for better cornering.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby Gassy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:01 am
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby YouAgainstMe » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:58 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby rheicel » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:28 pm
Where are you planning to buy this? I want one too!masa wrote:I am thinking to get a frame either in 3k matte or UD matte finish. I prefer the UD but the patches of carbon, see the fork and top tube below, have made me hard to pull the trigger. Any past experience that can be shared ?
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby biker jk » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:43 pm
Fitting 25mm tyres to a 20.5mm wide rim will cost you much of the aero benefits of the deeper rim since it will exacerbate the light bulb shape of the tyre on the rim.YouAgainstMe wrote:Im going to bite the bullet and get the new fsc50's with DT hubs. Can you still fit 25mm tyres on the new lighter 20.5mm rim? What lacing should I get, standard?
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby clydesmcdale » Wed May 01, 2013 2:02 pm
So a new set of DT swiss comp spokes and Prolock nipples have been ordered.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby RomanTheCube » Wed May 01, 2013 2:47 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby biker jk » Wed May 01, 2013 3:25 pm
My nipple driver would take care of that problem.RomanTheCube wrote:Nothing worse than popping nipples
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby clydesmcdale » Tue May 14, 2013 7:55 am
I go to their page and see this;
"VB Mall
The VeloBuild Mall is suspended. We will make a formal announcement about the future of VeloBuild on Tuesday May 14th. If you have an order in process you are about to receive your products or a refund. We will update you via email. (Check your spam folders also) We will also update here on the forum."
Looks as though they've suspended play for some reason.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby RonK » Tue May 14, 2013 8:30 am
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby warthog1 » Tue May 14, 2013 10:04 am
Gee that would really encourage you to shop local.RonK wrote:Same as the counterfeit cyclewear shops perhaps - shut down by the US goverment.
I would go out of my way to buy online if that turns out to be the case.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby rheicel » Tue May 14, 2013 10:15 am
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby clydesmcdale » Tue May 14, 2013 1:35 pm
Figured it would be something along those lines. Although they weren't strictly selling counterfeit branded gear. IIRC, they were fairly anti branded decals, clone bikes, etc. They even went as far as modding out pics and discussion re this.RonK wrote:Same as the counterfeit cyclewear shops perhaps - shut down by the US goverment.
I guess it could only be for assisting in on-selling frames produced via means of intellectual property violations??
Shame it's down as it was a pretty good resource for bulk buys.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby winstonw » Tue May 14, 2013 1:45 pm
http://www.farsports.cn/product/detail.php/id-134.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and they've been very good - they feel significantly more stable than the 50mm full carbon clincher when cornering, accelerating, descending.
they weigh 1505g without skewers, tape, etc.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby Crawf » Tue May 14, 2013 4:23 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby nickobec » Tue May 14, 2013 7:11 pm
Know what was happening in the early days, I would say it has nothing to do with counterfeit goods or the US Government (unless the IRS over tax)RonK wrote:Same as the counterfeit cyclewear shops perhaps - shut down by the US goverment.
Probably the effort of doing business with China and the Chinese ways
Factory offers to sell to Chinese middleman, VeloBuild arranges deal with Chinese middleman, Customer pays VB, VB pays Chinese middleman less commission, who ship product to customer when they get product from factory.
All you need is one factory or one middleman to stuff up a deal of 10 frames and VB is left holding the baby for a few grand and chasing somebody on the other side of the world.
The VB mall was being run as a business, if KillerBee was not earning a living from it and/or had problems like above, he has every right to close it.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby winstonw » Tue May 14, 2013 8:57 pm
yeah I wanted to ride them around on general road rides, and also not bother swapping brake pads all the time.Crawf wrote:That's a pretty impressive weight actually Winston.
So far, I think the extra 222grams of weight over the full carbons has been worth it.
They just feel more stable overall, carrying my high 80s bodywt.
I should also add cross winds just don't push them around as much...it is really really noticeable. These have the firecrest (toroidal) shape. Whether it is that or the extra weight who knows.
Anyway, will just keep riding them and see how they go. I'll have to get 20,000 out of them before I think they're quality.
A mate had a couple of spokes break on his Fulcrum 3s over the weekend. Now he has to wait for the LBS to order in proprietary spokes. Has reinforced that my next training wheels will be custom built with generic bits.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby snark » Wed May 15, 2013 7:59 am
Is this a common problem? I've been thinking about a wheel upgrade, and wondering if I get something with non-standard spokes if I should ask for a couple of spares when I get the wheels. Or isn't it as simple as that?winstonw wrote:A mate had a couple of spokes break on his Fulcrum 3s over the weekend. Now he has to wait for the LBS to order in proprietary spokes. Has reinforced that my next training wheels will be custom built with generic bits.
Cheers,
Simon.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby winstonw » Wed May 15, 2013 10:31 am
My view is to spend less on any one wheelset, keep them generic, and have more of them...and same for frames.
The question shouldn't be "Can I afford a $10,000+ bicycle", but "Can I afford a $10,000 bicycle, and back up bike, and the servicing of both, so that I am never without a good safe ride".
If you keep wheels generic, you can eventually acquire the skill to build or rebuild yourself....and keep yourself on the road more.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby rheicel » Wed May 15, 2013 10:35 am
^^^this, well said!winstonw wrote:Good luck getting extra non standard spokes with proprietary wheels. Suppose there's no reason why you couldn't though...and keep them in your shed until you need them. This is the problem with non standards - my mate wanted to use these wheels in a big ride this Saturday, and they may not be ready as the LBS has to order the spokes in from the fulcrum agent.
My view is to spend less on any one wheelset, keep them generic, and have more of them...and same for frames.
The question shouldn't be "Can I afford a $10,000+ bicycle", but "Can I afford a $10,000 bicycle, and back up bike, and the servicing of both, so that I am never without a good safe ride".
If you keep wheels generic, you can eventually acquire the skill to build or rebuild yourself....and keep yourself on the road more.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby Crawf » Thu May 16, 2013 2:20 pm
"I'm not shutting down VeloBuild. I'm just getting out of the customer service business and turning it back over to crowd sourcing to put pressure on the sellers to get better.clydesmcdale wrote:Anyone know what's going on with Velobuild?
Actually the business model is quite good if you can hire low cost CRM reps and like to work a lot of hours to get it started. We made a healthy chunk of change and got a lot of free toys. Investing in a better shopping cart would be a good idea... ours was crap.
VeloBuild was a hobby due to my love for bikes and saving a buck. My other businesses do far better and need my full attention... as does my fiancee, old cat and our new house
So... all the gloves (and moderators) are off. Post anything on VeloBuild you wish! We have invited every seller we know of to post as well.
BTW to the RBR mod... I hope this isn't in violation of your rules. You guys are welcome on VeloBuild anytime. This is just an effort to answer a lot of BS swirling around... fun BS to read... but still BS."
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby rheicel » Sat May 18, 2013 1:35 pm
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby jaseyjase » Mon May 20, 2013 6:24 pm
English BB and mechanical please
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby Crawf » Tue May 21, 2013 12:26 pm
What about an 54 098, including int Di2 battery and Di2 cables?jaseyjase wrote:if anyone has a 54cm FM066 frame/fork they want to sell please let me know, new/used i dont mind.
English BB and mechanical please
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