Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby devilishdesigner » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:04 pm

Looks like it has seen a few lives that one, I'm guessing the handlebars and stem are the only original parts, but looks like a reasonable quality frame beneath the mix-n-match
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Postby silentbutdeadly » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:13 pm

I'm seeing a great deal of potential there. Methinks it needs to return to single speed...it just doesn't look to me like it was actually meant to have gears and dodgy cabling everywhere.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby LG » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:54 pm

Purchased a few months ago. Appears to have been blue until somebody tried to make it look like a bumble bee. It has one of the more interesting head badges I've seen. Not my size unfortunately :cry: .
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Postby HappyHumber » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:31 pm

Is that actually a chrome fork crown, or is one of those cheap tin plates?

Few old interesting bits on it regardless. What are the derailleurs and drivetrain?
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Postby LG » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:37 pm

Cheap tin plate, but it looks pretty cool.
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Postby HappyHumber » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:41 pm

Looks better than the Malvern Star plates of similar ilk... you can spot them a mile off! :)
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Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:41 pm

LG wrote:Purchased a few months ago. Appears to have been blue until somebody tried to make it look like a bumble bee. It has one of the more interesting head badges I've seen. Not my size unfortunately :cry: .
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Love it.

Looks a bastard combination of 1950-60's Australian and French design. I love the Simplex front rod driven derailleur. Very "French Constructeur"
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Postby grantw » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:12 pm

That is a fascinating bike LG, I think SSS is on the money with the constructeur idea, looks like a french trials bike from the 1950s, have you got a shot of the back half of the bike? The seat stay arrangement looks interesting too
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Postby WyvernRH » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:13 pm

[quote="LG"]Purchased a few months ago. Appears to have been blue until somebody tried to make it look like a bumble bee. It has one of the more interesting head badges I've seen. Not my size unfortunately :cry: .
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Well by the badge it is a British Coventry Eagle from the Midlands with possibly original kit from the late 50's. I have a few catalog scans somewhere I'll try and do some matching (with that fork crown especially)
These guys were a small manufacturer like Norman, Elswick etc who carried on way into the 70's.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby LG » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:04 pm

Coventry Eagle it indeed is Richard. A bit of info on the web, but not a great deal, more about motobikes. This one runs 26" wheels and has weinmann junior brakes, so probably more aimed at the younger market. Rear changer is huret svelto. Unfortunately the williams crank has the large ring non-removable and is very very worn, so will be a hang on the wall job.

Will get some more photos, but the lugs and layout are pretty standard.

I reckon I'll eventually get some decals which are still available and give it a coat of blue, but my sandblaster is a little broken at the moment so it will need to wait a while.
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Postby Saro28 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:39 pm

Looks interesting, not one i've seen before, especially the front brake set up
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Postby WyvernRH » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:28 pm

LG wrote:This one runs 26" wheels and has weinmann junior brakes, so probably more aimed at the younger market. Rear changer is huret svelto.
Don't knock it too much, 26x 1 1/4 was a common 'club racer/tourer' size for wheels in the UK in the 1930's to 50's and 26 x 1 1 3/8 was also not uncommon on bikes not meant for, shall we say, less 'Sportif' uses. It may well be a early frame (from the lugs) that has been re-fitted with the Svelto derailleur (1958 onwards at a guess?). AFAIK the badge didn't change much from the 30's to the 70's
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby LG » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:16 am

The wheels are 26" x 1 3/8 on this bike, with a bayliss wyley rear hub and raleigh front. It appears to take about a 26.6mm seatpost, so maybe PG reynolds or something similar after all. Included are another shot of the headbadge and a photo of the rear dropouts. Looks like somebody has drilled some holes in the dropout at some stage to mount a rack. Pity they don't make head badges like they used to :lol:

Also, just had a look at the black bike from landscapecadmonkey previous to mine. That actually looks like quite a nice frame and reasonable old as well.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:09 pm

That headbadge is super cool :) . I wish they did still make more like it, though off the top of my head Ibis have a nice (cast bronze?) one and there's another semi-custom American make that I think has a fairly ornate badge.
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Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:32 pm

There's plenty of US manufacturers with cast or CNC'ed head badges.
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Postby HappyHumber » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:34 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:There's plenty of US manufacturers with cast or CNC'ed head badges.
I'd agree. A lot of the latter day "cottage industry" handmade frame builders clambering overthemselves to get into the North American Handmade Bicycle Show (aka NAHBS) ... Have an overly wanked headbadge. Just google-image "NAHBS"

Maybe it's something to do with the boringly neat fillet brazed & TIG'ed frames?
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Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:44 pm

They just look better than a boring old transfer.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby find_bruce » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:15 pm

HappyHumber wrote:
singlespeedscott wrote:There's plenty of US manufacturers with cast or CNC'ed head badges.
I'd agree. A lot of the latter day "cottage industry" handmade frame builders clambering overthemselves to get into the North American Handmade Bicycle Show (aka NAHBS) ... Have an overly wanked headbadge. Just google-image "NAHBS"

Maybe it's something to do with the boringly neat fillet brazed & TIG'ed frames?
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Postby QuangVuong » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:25 pm

Wow, that face for a badge is cool!
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Postby rosscojj » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:15 am

Someone tell me what i scored for $20? :D
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby frailer5 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:58 am

I won't have any answers for you, but would like to see a closer pic of that fork crown.
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Postby rosscojj » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:00 pm

Bit closer.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby munga » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:23 pm

i think it's a colnago!

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby cotterpin » Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:25 pm

French made BoCaMa (BCM) crown, probably BCM lugs as well.
Available to builders in Australia early 80's.
Definitely hand built, probably Oz.
Did you buy it in Victoria?
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby rosscojj » Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:53 pm

You think so Munga?

Cotterpin - I Bought at the local tip shop in Bendigo.

It appears that it was originally a blue color after stripping some of the paint off the dropouts.

There are no markings or serial numbers on the frame apart from 74A & _0A stamped on the lugs.

The Dura Ace hubs have B C on them so that would make them 1977?

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