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Postby waqas_1994 » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:43 pm
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Postby RonK » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:51 pm
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Postby toolonglegs » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:43 pm
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:02 pm
it probably stems from its history and tradition. Also because its bloody awesome stuff and so easy to work with and repair. But I am biased.
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby adamr » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:55 pm
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby gabrielle260 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:16 pm
In a word; Yes!adamr wrote:I have never ridden a bike with Campagnolo, but it looks to me like you would need to dislocate your thumbs to use the mouse-ear gear shifter from the drops. Is it easier than it looks?
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:01 pm
Never had a problem. Usually in the right gear when i move to the dropsadamr wrote:I have never ridden a bike with Campagnolo, but it looks to me like you would need to dislocate your thumbs to use the mouse-ear gear shifter from the drops. Is it easier than it looks?
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby simonn » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:20 pm
Unless you have tendonitis effecting the tendon which the tendonitis I have effects . Shimano is easier in this case.gabrielle260 wrote:In a word; Yes!adamr wrote:I have never ridden a bike with Campagnolo, but it looks to me like you would need to dislocate your thumbs to use the mouse-ear gear shifter from the drops. Is it easier than it looks?
Saying that, under normal conditions, I concur.
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Postby Dan » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:38 am
singlespeedscott wrote: Never had a problem. Usually in the right gear when i move to the drops
You're always in the right gear Scott
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby jcjordan » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:52 am
Not for megabrielle260 wrote:In a word; Yes!adamr wrote:I have never ridden a bike with Campagnolo, but it looks to me like you would need to dislocate your thumbs to use the mouse-ear gear shifter from the drops. Is it easier than it looks?
One thumb that cant reach the lever without almost takung my hand off the bar and the other still need to move my grip
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Postby Marty Moose » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:53 pm
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby __PG__ » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:33 pm
I don't know why people get so hung up on groupsets. I met a guy yesterday who rides with SRAM Red brifters and rear derailleur, Shimano Dura Ace 7800 brakes and front derailleur, Shimano Ultegra Cassette and chain and a Campagnolo Record crankset.
I'd give Campag a go if they ever got rid of that silly thumb lever.
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Postby gpz1100 » Fri May 10, 2013 10:28 pm
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby Uncle Just » Sat May 11, 2013 5:37 pm
Campag then lost me when they went to 11 speed and carbon parts which I dislike on aesthetic grounds and unnecessary complexity. $160 for a chain breaker, I don't think so! I happily now use DA7800 and various other Shimano groupset parts on my roadie. (Shimano have now rendered my wheels obsolete going to 11.) But as a good mechanic I know says, you can just throw Shimano at a bike and it builds itself. I've been around cycling enough to know that Campag remains the ne plus ultra gruppo for the bike snob. But these days they all work very well, even the low end groupsets, if you know how to tune your bike.
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Postby AndrewBurns » Sat May 11, 2013 5:49 pm
I much prefer the shifting of SRAM Force to the veloce levers.
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Postby warthog1 » Sat May 11, 2013 8:49 pm
It works fine for me and has been super reliable. I don't see the campag thumb gizmo working with my less than flexible motorcycle damaged R thumb.
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Postby RonK » Sat May 11, 2013 9:17 pm
I started using Campy because I was offered a massive discount on an old stock bike that just happened to be fitted with Chorus.
Despite smashing my thumb in a training crash requiring surgery to pin it together and loosing significant mobility as a result, using the thumb shifter was second nature from the very first ride.
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby macca33 » Sat May 11, 2013 9:27 pm
As others have said, I would imagine that groupset brands are all probably within very close proximity to one another all things considered, so it simply comes down to personal choice in the end.
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Postby Jesmol » Sat May 11, 2013 9:43 pm
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby warthog1 » Sun May 12, 2013 8:57 am
Are the new 11 speed casstettes compatible with campag ones? I suspect not with di2 and eps.
With the cost of high end wheelsets which many people do as their first upgrade, it seems a clever way of "acquiring" new customers. The existence of Sram with its cassette spacing compatability is a flaw in that argument, but it does serve to isolate Campag a bit I reckon.
Shimano have also pinched back a few campag riders I know of by getting di2 out earlier than eps.
I'd like to try campag but I am happy with the functionality and ergonomics of shimano enough to not bother. More likely to try sram as it is compatible with my wheelsets, I already run their cassettes.
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby clackers » Sun May 12, 2013 4:03 pm
It's how they killed Suntour.warthog1 wrote:I wonder do Shimano offer groupsets cheaply to manufacturers to ensure more people start on their equipment?.
They didn't see any threat from SRAM, who began as a twist shift manufacturer for mountain bikes.
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Postby zero » Sun May 12, 2013 4:29 pm
They do see significant threats from SRAM, and their anti competitive practices was the subject of a lawsuit. Deore is an example of feature trickledown forced by SRAM. Ie the bits that are compared most are upgraded - hence my replacement rd being straight-pull shadow config, and my replacement crankset being HT2 etc.clackers wrote:It's how they killed Suntour.warthog1 wrote:I wonder do Shimano offer groupsets cheaply to manufacturers to ensure more people start on their equipment?.
They didn't see any threat from SRAM, who began as a twist shift manufacturer for mountain bikes.
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Postby optiumcarbon » Fri May 17, 2013 5:18 pm
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Re: Groupsets?
Postby ValleyForge » Mon May 20, 2013 5:04 pm
I guess the best distillation is "Shimano - first to market, Campagnolo - best to market".
Try the shifters and see. I find the Shimano brifters just not right, and the Campy 11S are so much more ergonomic.
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