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Postby GeoffInBrisbane » Tue May 14, 2013 11:41 am
durianrider wrote:Michelle, you are cycling WAY more than my gf. You don't eat the same as her though and thats your problem. She has been eating a high carb, low fat, low protein, low sodium UNLIMITED calorie vegan diet for over 6 years now. LOTS of sweet fruits. We actually keep her training under 100km a week otherwise she would get too thin actually. She wants to keep a bit of curve. I sincerely doubt you would be willing to give up the fattening foods and replace them with steamed rice, vegan pasta dishes, fruit, sweet potato etc but I thought I would put it out there.
Postby winstonw » Tue May 14, 2013 1:31 pm
clackers wrote:winstonw wrote:
Now on average, I allow for burning around 18Cals/km for my non race riding...so that 600k should have burned 1.5kg of fat.
Out of interest, can we see your calculation, Winston?
Happy to play 'Spot the error', if there is one.
Postby cyclotaur » Tue May 14, 2013 2:55 pm
clackers wrote:winstonw wrote:
Now on average, I allow for burning around 18Cals/km for my non race riding...so that 600k should have burned 1.5kg of fat.
Out of interest, can we see your calculation, Winston?
Happy to play 'Spot the error', if there is one.
Postby clackers » Tue May 14, 2013 3:02 pm
Postby winstonw » Tue May 14, 2013 9:16 pm
clackers wrote:Very impressed by all of that, Winston - am copying and pasting for future reference!
By the look of it, you did about 20 hours at round about 400 calories an hour more than say, the calories expended reading this forum. Although Durianrider's posts may have raised your blood pressure and skewed the figures.![]()
Anyway, that ends up being almost exactly the same as metabolizing a kilogram of fat, so it has to be asked, what was for dinner that week?????
Postby winstonw » Tue May 14, 2013 9:24 pm
cyclotaur wrote:clackers wrote:winstonw wrote:
Now on average, I allow for burning around 18Cals/km for my non race riding...so that 600k should have burned 1.5kg of fat.
Out of interest, can we see your calculation, Winston?
Happy to play 'Spot the error', if there is one.
And while you're at it can you stop mixing metric (kph, kg, kms) and imperial (Cals) measures ... drives me nuts !!
Postby ft_critical » Tue May 14, 2013 9:27 pm
biker jk wrote:My experience and that of cycling friends is that riding on its own will not lead to weight loss unless you look at your diet as well. From when I started cycling again in 2004 to now I have lost 12kg but cut out sugary soft drinks and other bad foods.
Postby ft_critical » Tue May 14, 2013 9:30 pm
winstonw wrote:
Postby winstonw » Tue May 14, 2013 10:03 pm
ft_critical wrote:I don't see how this can be accurate without a power meter.
Postby ft_critical » Tue May 14, 2013 10:09 pm
winstonw wrote:ft_critical wrote:I don't see how this can be accurate without a power meter.
It doesn't have to be super accurate. It's a guide to adjusting energy intake for ride volume and intensity, something many riders cannot even get in the ballpark of.
IMO, analytic's algorithm is more accurate than that used by the Garmin 500. The Garmin 800 and 510 are more accurate. Strava also grossly overestimates energy expenditure.
Calculating energy expenditure from a power meter won't include efficiency at transforming body movement to the pedals.
Even with the additional accuracy of a power meter, ime variation in endocrine and stress/distress factors is more important in controlling appetite and weight.
Postby durianrider » Tue May 14, 2013 11:36 pm
Postby winstonw » Wed May 15, 2013 5:54 am
durianrider wrote:Hey, people can debate. Thats fine. My results speak for themselves. So do Freelee's. Whilst some people here are starving and counting calories with fear we will be stuffing our faces with delicious healthy carb meals and training when ever we feel like it. Not for weight loss either, but just for strava KOM's.
Postby clackers » Wed May 15, 2013 11:43 am
winstonw wrote:
yeah I said i don't eat junk, but have had a lot of social stuff (incl. mild to mod booze)...Also trying to stay up and catch some of the Giro sees me whipping up an avocado and multigrain bread sandwich, or 2, or 3, and hot soy milk coffee....then if tired at work, there's a nut jar in the kitchen which is regularly visited.
Postby toolonglegs » Wed May 15, 2013 4:34 pm
Postby clackers » Wed May 15, 2013 5:11 pm
Postby Mulger bill » Wed May 15, 2013 6:59 pm
clackers wrote:Well, Nibali's winning the Giro at the moment and I'm pretty sure I saw him eating a banana ... you can't deny their efficacy.
Postby Farmer Elvis » Wed May 15, 2013 7:23 pm
GeoffInBrisbane wrote:durianrider wrote:Michelle, you are cycling WAY more than my gf. You don't eat the same as her though and thats your problem. She has been eating a high carb, low fat, low protein, low sodium UNLIMITED calorie vegan diet for over 6 years now. LOTS of sweet fruits. We actually keep her training under 100km a week otherwise she would get too thin actually. She wants to keep a bit of curve. I sincerely doubt you would be willing to give up the fattening foods and replace them with steamed rice, vegan pasta dishes, fruit, sweet potato etc but I thought I would put it out there.
Not sure about anybody else, but if my diet meant I had to keep my training to less than 100km/week lest I get too thin, then I'd be heading straight down to the pie shop...
Postby winstonw » Wed May 15, 2013 8:54 pm
clackers wrote:winstonw wrote:
yeah I said i don't eat junk, but have had a lot of social stuff (incl. mild to mod booze)...Also trying to stay up and catch some of the Giro sees me whipping up an avocado and multigrain bread sandwich, or 2, or 3, and hot soy milk coffee....then if tired at work, there's a nut jar in the kitchen which is regularly visited.
I'm still amazed at someone doing twenty hours of aerobic exercise in a week and not losing any weight.
The nuts and avocados do have a lot of fat in them (even if they call them the 'good' oils).
And what's your intake on your rides, if you don't mind me asking?
Postby ZepinAtor » Thu May 16, 2013 12:31 am
Postby winstonw » Thu May 16, 2013 11:15 am
ZepinAtor wrote:4 x coffee's in one day![]()
Not great IMO, but I do know a little about your health/history & as is my Wife's dilemma coffee makes her feel better. (Thyroid issues) I still think it should be avoided if possible as that amount of caffeine really isn't going to help anything, but will effect the way your food is digested & has been proven to be a diarrhetic. tisk tisk.
Postby clackers » Thu May 16, 2013 11:35 am
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Thu May 16, 2013 12:00 pm
Postby winstonw » Thu May 16, 2013 12:56 pm
clackers wrote:@Winston. You're doing all the right things. As an IT guy I'm still fighting the KFC/pizza/Red Bull culture.
You may well be adding weight as muscle, which is why male athletes fail the BMI test, and sports club medicos prefer skinfold tests.
Postby winstonw » Thu May 16, 2013 1:10 pm
ColinOldnCranky wrote:Weigh myself every morning first thing and note how much over I am
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