Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
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Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Yonas » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:40 pm
I'm in need of a new helmet. As you may know buying locally and overseas is a big gap in price.
Wiggle currently is not selling helmet to Australia due to they are in progress of updating about the sticker for Aus standard. I don't know when they're going to start selling again.
c r c has the helmet I want but didn't say if their helmets comply with AU std.
I do not race, I ride for fun with friends. I do ride for charities or events like Cyclosportif. I do have BWA membership card.
Wonder if my helmet isn't compliant with AU std, will BWA still cover my insurance?
Do you think getting helmet with no Aus sticker is okay for my need?
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:14 am
B No, for the above stated reason. Why give that clown that right crossed you ANY chance to say that your injuries are all your own fault.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby jasonc » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:16 am
there's a thread at the moment discussing BQ membership insurance (viewtopic.php?f=15&t=64984" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). This is the main point:Yonas wrote:Wonder if my helmet isn't compliant with AU std, will BWA still cover my insurance?
so not have an AU helmet means you are not complying with the road laws....We will not pay for any Injury directly or indirectly caused or contributed to by, or in the consequence of ...
... engaging in illegal activities at the time of the Injury or not complying with the road laws
and/or legislation applicable to the State which they are cycling in;
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby richbee » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:13 am
Go into Big W, K-Mart, Aldi, Anaconda, wherever and buy a cheap $10 kids helmet.
Remove sticker and transfer to new helmet.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:22 am
Which is designed to self destruct if removed...richbee wrote:Remove sticker...
Somehow, methinks that if bastigeinsurors.com was to discover this practice they would not only disallow a claim but push for fraud charges.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby jules21 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:39 am
victoria - and i believe all of australia - has compulsory, no-fault 3rd party injury insurance schemes. you can ride down the wrong way of a freeway, head on into the traffic with plastique explosives strapped to your body and shouting "allahu akhbar!!", and you are still covered for injury costs. there is no excuse for insurance companies not to pay out.kx315 wrote:Insurance company's are looking for any excuse not to pay a claim so why give them one to save a few bucks in the short term. Personally when it comes to my head I think it is pretty important and it is not something I question spending a few bucks on protecting
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby jasonc » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:44 am
julesjules21 wrote:that's great. that'll cover your injuries. won't cover the damage you cause to someone else's car/property
it's the only part you have to buy locally.
as per the discussion, BWA will find any excuse not to pay out. If you are breaking the law, they won't pay out (a part of the membership is accident insurance). Breaking the law includes not wearing an AU helmet.....
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby jules21 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:04 pm
but whether your helmet has an AS sticker or not will have no impact on your liability for property damage.jasonc wrote:that's great. that'll cover your injuries. won't cover the damage you cause to someone else's car/property
i'm not saying you should avoid buying AS approved helmets, only that it's just another of 1000s of rules and regulations, no less or more important. it's not that big a deal.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Summernight » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:28 pm
Wouldn't your example come under an act of terrorism, Jules21? Pretty sure most insurers don't cover acts of terrorism/war/riot even for the injured party who had no part in causing the incident.jules21 wrote:victoria - and i believe all of australia - has compulsory, no-fault 3rd party injury insurance schemes. you can ride down the wrong way of a freeway, head on into the traffic with plastique explosives strapped to your body and shouting "allahu akhbar!!", and you are still covered for injury costs. there is no excuse for insurance companies not to pay out.kx315 wrote:Insurance company's are looking for any excuse not to pay a claim so why give them one to save a few bucks in the short term. Personally when it comes to my head I think it is pretty important and it is not something I question spending a few bucks on protecting
If you want to save a few dollars, Yonas, then why not go and buy a KMart helmet and use that one until Wiggle or c r c start selling Aus compliant stickered helmets??? I know the KMart helmet won't be pretty or as comfortable as your intended helmet, but it has the Australian compliant sticker. Or you could try an online Australian retailer?
Pity you're not in Melbourne as the bikeshare scheme sells the blue 'Melbourne' helmets for $5 - they are quite the fashion accessory around town for some cyclists. And now that they are trialling free helmets on the bikes you could just get one that way - free!
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby jules21 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:25 pm
precisely! wearing an AS-approved helmet will not save you there, so go ahead and buy one from o/seasSummernight wrote: Wouldn't your example come under an act of terrorism, Jules21? Pretty sure most insurers don't cover acts of terrorism/war/riot even for the injured party who had no part in causing the incident.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Yonas » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:57 am
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
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Postby trailgumby » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:57 pm
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Postby trailgumby » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:04 pm
I did a review on one awhile back on this site and it is my favourite helmet for comfort, the styling is as good as any of the name brands and it's half the price.
I think site admin AUBicycles has one as well and is pretty happy with it. A couple of my riding mates shocked me by buying on the basis of my recommendation and are happy with theirs too. Personally, I'd have thought the sight of my ugly mug under one of Kali's helmets should have frightened them off, but I guess that shows you how good looking the helmets are
No neither of us are sponsored, unless you count being able to retain the review item after the pieces were published.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Mulger bill » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:39 pm
I commute under a Kali Amara. Great lid but it may be a little too well vented for a Melbs winter, we'll see.
The visor can be popped off if you like your nose sunburnt.
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Postby trailgumby » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:49 pm
I took to using a bandana this week under my lid for the first time this winter. Kept my noggin nicely warm. It was my Il Pirato one. I just need a big gold dangly earring to go with it!
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Mulger bill » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:55 pm
And nose enhancement surgerytrailgumby wrote:
I took to using a bandana this week under my lid for the first time this winter. Kept my noggin nicely warm. It was my Il Pirato one. I just need a big gold dangly earring to go with it!
I haven't had to drag the GE Baked Beanie out yet this year but methinks coming home at 2100ish tomorrow might open the innings.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Mark Kelly » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:48 pm
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby jules21 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:52 pm
i ride with a bandana and having italian blood, didn't need to get a nose job. however, having to tuck it under a helmet doesn't do the Il Pirata look justiceMulger bill wrote:And nose enhancement surgerytrailgumby wrote:
I took to using a bandana this week under my lid for the first time this winter. Kept my noggin nicely warm. It was my Il Pirato one. I just need a big gold dangly earring to go with it!
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:31 pm
The last helmet I replaced I tried to remove the sticker just out of curiosity. Believe me, it ain't happening.Mulger bill wrote:Which is designed to self destruct if removed...richbee wrote:Remove sticker...
+1 to all the comments about Big W helmets, I use Rosebank Escape helmets http://www.bigw.com.au/sports-leisure/b ... l-blue-hex" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (I have 3 so when they start to smell I can soak the pads in bleach and wear another one ) and for $19 you can't really complain. As you would expect they are not as well ventilated as more expensive helmets, but it's really not much of a difference, I like to push myself pretty hard and sweat a LOT and it's not like i'm going to get heatstroke because i'm wearing one of those rather than a Specialized/Limar/whatever.
They meet the same standard so if you can't afford the fancy one you want, just use one of these til you've saved up.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby Saturnstarzz » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:21 pm
I always wear a bandanna, keeps the head and the tops my dumbo ears nice and warm in winter, keeps the helmet pads nice a dry and soaks up the sweat in summer.trailgumby wrote:
I took to using a bandana this week under my lid for the first time this winter. Kept my noggin nicely warm. It was my Il Pirato one. I just need a big gold dangly earring to go with it!
As for the standards there is reason there certified, In the event of a prang they have been tested and have to past some pretty hefty tests. I for one would rather pay the extra dollars from my local LBS knowing that my helmet is certified, for me its how much my is my life worth and have been in accidents in past where the helmet has saved my life ( just not my wrists from breaking). if you want to but a import that's not certified and do a dodgey with the stickers go for it . But regardless of 3rd party insurance or bike specific insurance I think your life is more important than saving a few dollars.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby RideLikeTheWind » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:36 pm
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
Postby richbee » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:14 am
I'm riding with my 2 year old Specialized helmet bought when I was still in the UK. It has the European certification which if it was considered safe for me in Europe, I'm pretty sure it's still safe for me now. The sooner local legislation recognises accredited global standards (The local agency does call themselves SAI Global???) the better it will be for prices of helmets, both bicycle and motorcycle, which are disproportionately expensive compared to what can be obtained with the EN label elsewhere in the world.Mulger bill wrote:Which is designed to self destruct if removed...richbee wrote:Remove sticker...
Somehow, methinks that if bastigeinsurors.com was to discover this practice they would not only disallow a claim but push for fraud charges.
As for the designed to self destruct feature of the SAI sticker, I bought a Bell helmet for my daughter from Anaconda and the AIS sticker virtually fell out and I had to put it back in with double sided tape.
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Re: Helmet - Australia Standard sticker
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