What prompted the downgrade?Slvr32gtr wrote:Bit off topic, but I just put my order through for a set of Pro-Lite Bracciano's (alloy 27mm profile version) to replace my Dura-Ace C24's
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Postby antipodean » Fri May 17, 2013 7:24 pm
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Postby jacks1071 » Fri May 17, 2013 8:57 pm
The only downgrade he's done is in expenditure. I'd put Bracciano's up against C24's everyday of the week, ride them back to back and if you still spend the extra for the C24's you've got too much moneyantipodean wrote:What prompted the downgrade?Slvr32gtr wrote:Bit off topic, but I just put my order through for a set of Pro-Lite Bracciano's (alloy 27mm profile version) to replace my Dura-Ace C24's
I guess next week we'll have someone who can write us a comparison review.
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Re: Bracciano C50T - Carbon Tubular
Postby clydesmcdale » Mon May 20, 2013 9:59 am
Not particularly keen on doing the advertising of someone else's product at the detriment of my own aesthetics. Removing decals may be one avenue to a stealth look, another is along the lines of what campag, zipp, enve, lightweight are doing with their range of black label/dark label decals. The muted aesthetics is something I associate with very high end products (not just bike gear either).jacks1071 wrote:clydesmcdale wrote:Looking at the prices on c r c of these wheels accompanied with the rep they've been getting through here at BNA, i'm tempted to just purchase a set of 50mm in lieu of rebuilding my chinese carbons (which I've been mostly dissapointed with).
The decals can't easily be removed - they are actually a transfer, not a sticker. I'm not sure why you'd want to anyway. If you want something with no decals buy some no-name chinese ones.
If you're going to pay the extra for a quality product might as well have the people around you know about it.
For the price we're selling this model at its a marketing exercise. If everyone removed the decals I might as well not bother bringing them in.
I'd encourage Pro-lite to investigate the option of releasing a dark label set, as there is certainly interest on my behalf, and I would assume from other also.
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Re: Bracciano C50T - Carbon Tubular
Postby Slvr32gtr » Mon May 20, 2013 10:38 am
I have been researching and looking around for a shallow, alloy braking surface clincher wheelset for a few weeks now and the Bracciano's were in the mix. It came down to some custom TWE's, Bracciano's, Dura-ace 9000 C24's, Mavic Kysrium Elite SLS, Zipp 101's, and Fast Forward F4R's.antipodean wrote:What prompted the downgrade?
My only concern with the dura-ace wheels is that when you are really leaning on them in a sprint, the 16 spoke front wheel feels a little too flexy, so the additional spokes on the other options were a consideration.
Considering I will be using these wheels for 90% training and climbing and only racing on them for windy days or hilly stages (have carbons for normal race duties), the Bracciano's were worth the punt at the price-point as far as i was concerned. A few of the guys in the club have been using them for years with no issues, and reading through the magazine tests and testimonies of real life buyers also gave me confidence in the Pro-Lite wheels.
Buying from an Aus distributor gave me piece of mind over ordering a factory set of wheels from a UK site (as the price difference from buying locally is too much to justify).
But I shall find out for myself how they compare to the dura-ace wheels once they arrive!
Edit: And to add to that, I wouldnt have even had to look at new wheels if Shimano didnt price replacement rims at such a ridiculous amount! Its a bit sad that the hubs and spokes are potentially going to waste.
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Re: Bracciano C50T - Carbon Tubular
Postby jasonc » Mon May 20, 2013 1:40 pm
am interested to see how the comparo goes. your current wheels would be the c24 7900?Slvr32gtr wrote:But I shall find out for myself how they compare to the dura-ace wheels once they arrive!
getting the 2013 bracciano's (11 speed compatible)?
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Postby jacks1071 » Mon May 20, 2013 1:54 pm
Agree with you 100% and I am looking into this. I do have a shipment to sell through first though before it becomes an option.clydesmcdale wrote:I'd encourage Pro-lite to investigate the option of releasing a dark label set, as there is certainly interest on my behalf, and I would assume from other also.
Matt black is so "IN" right now. Pro-Lite have gone that way, black on black with most their frames. Seems like a natural progression to do it with the wheels.
If I place a big enough order they'll paint them any colour I request. In the meantime there is nothing to stop someone a little crafty using some black vinal to "customise" the look of their wheels.
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Re: Bracciano C50T - Carbon Tubular
Postby Slvr32gtr » Mon May 20, 2013 2:19 pm
I will be sure to report back once i have had a good back to back test of both sets of wheels.jasonc wrote:am interested to see how the comparo goes. your current wheels would be the c24 7900?Slvr32gtr wrote:But I shall find out for myself how they compare to the dura-ace wheels once they arrive!
getting the 2013 bracciano's (11 speed compatible)?
The Pro-Lites actually arrived today and look fantastic! Hubs feel very smooth and the new 2013 graphics look great. Cheers for the quick service from your team Deon/Jacks1071, I saw your card tucked in with the invoice
I am currently running the WH7850 C24s that are advertised as 1380g for the pair.
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Postby jacks1071 » Fri May 24, 2013 3:55 pm
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Postby jacks1071 » Fri May 24, 2013 8:11 pm
Tubular is always going to be lighter.Xplora wrote:The weight difference in the tubs vs clinchers in that price bracket is pretty insane
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Re: Bracciano C50T - Carbon Tubular
Postby Phil » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:48 pm
Can't believe I waited so long to get them. Spin up nicely, roll very well.
Running the Gatorskin Sprinters, they are noticably faster, and comfy through my usual circuit of Kings Park. Used to 23mm GP4000S and Campagnolo Shamal Ultras on the Bianchi. I have tried Vittoria CX2 Evos, which were fast and comfy, but lasted 1500kms max, and definately nastier to get on than the tubs....
Lets just see how long I get out of the Gatorskins.
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Postby Phil » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:14 pm
Haha. No just the eternal battle with my inner stinge.Xplora wrote:^^ Assuming you wished you chose to get the wheels earlier in the cycling career, as opposed to Deon taking forever to deliver?
Deon shipped em pretty quick, and switched over the freehub to Campy to boot.
What I want now is a cheapy set of tubby rims for tyre stretching duties. Cheapest I have seen is $31 a pop on Chain Reaction, doubt I will find anything locally for less than $72 for the pair shipped.
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Re: Bracciano C50T - Carbon Tubular
Postby ironhanglider » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:25 pm
Second hand rims pop up on eBay every now and then, I got some for about $40 for the same purpose, then got excited and built them into my criterium wheels.
Cheers,
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Postby Phil » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:56 pm
Especially when I got the Gators (AT) $36 a pop on Wiggle - got 4, should have bought more.
Will even throw up a picture when its dry enough to bother washing my bike
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Postby Xplora » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:48 am
*sob*
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Postby jacks1071 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:19 pm
Sorry, sorry - I can't help myselfXplora wrote:NO! Keep your endlessly sexy deep dish pictures to yourself! I cannot afford to be tempted!!!
*sob*
Here is a set of Bracciano Caliente C45's
Here is a set of Bracciano C50's that'll be doing the ladies QRTS rounds
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Postby jacks1071 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:56 pm
Everyone is sending in their pictures today!!Xplora wrote:Noice... the Supersix looks a bit chaotic but in a great way... like a harlequin design...
I won't name the customer but he's on here somewhere
"Thanks Deon, these bracciano's are simply awesome, had my first ride on them yesterday and strava nearly had a melt down!! Wheels are FAST that I'm worried about getting speeding fines!! Cheers"
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Re: Bracciano C50T - Carbon Tubular
Postby Phil » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:55 pm
My little ol Bianchi aint in the same league of sexy as the S-Works Still waiting for the rain to stop for cleaning duties - whoever thought matt white would be a good colour
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Postby schroeds » Fri May 23, 2014 9:36 pm
cheers
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Postby jacks1071 » Sat May 24, 2014 9:55 pm
No plans to offer black decals at this point in time. I do have C45's in stock at the moment.schroeds wrote:Any updates on the C45's...performance and availability with 'blacker' decals?
cheers
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