Daniel Meers - GoldCoast.com.au - Guilty of Inciting Hatred
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Postby g-boaf » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:48 pm
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Postby wilddemon » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:58 pm
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Postby schroeds » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:30 pm
Just to wander sightly off topic again (sorry ), what strikes me is how unified the forum initially was against the idiot journalist, how a rather off topic controversy seemed to turn the anger inwards in such a cannibalistic way , then there was a refocusing on the common enemy, and there we all feel good again
You could write a thesis on group human behaviour from this thread, but one observation I have to make is how easily this community can become fractured. Even in the context of a response to a common foe.
That's perhaps indicative of a weakness of the cycling community, and a challenge: speaking with one voice to the public whilst encouraging constructive debate and entertaining differing views internally is very important to us all.
And on the whole we are pretty good at it, so we should have the confidence to remain unshaken by agent provocateurs and indulgent of dissenters.
(Man steps off soapbox)
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Postby gorilla monsoon » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:29 pm
Oh, you think the Press Council takes this kind of stuff seriously? Okay then. And there's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.wilddemon wrote:Me too. Good to hear they are taking it seriously.
Personally, I'd have sent a copy of the column to Media Watch. Then I'd have rung the guy and offered him my spare bike and the chance to come for a ride, gently explaining to him what it was all about so that he could see the error of his ways.
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Postby wilddemon » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:31 pm
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:39 pm
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Postby AUbicycles » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:00 pm
Schroeds, yes I see what you mean- as a community there can be a unity but not to forget, not everyone gets involved in these type if discussions and some members are very active.
That is the nature of forums and while any one topic may do no more than allow a discussion with collection of views, in context there is not always a goal or result.
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Postby InTheWoods » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:04 pm
(I hope its ok to quote, I haven't quoted names. Mods remove if not ok)
Dear Mr Inthewoods
Re: Gold Coast Bulletin, “Meers: Time to curb pedal power”, 11 December 2012
I apologise for the long delay in communicating with you about this matter. As previously advised we sought a response from the publication after receiving several complaints.
Having further considered the issues and the publication’s response to the complaint, we do not consider that the level of offence to be so grave as to outweigh public interest in freedom of expression. In reaching this decision, we note that the article is clearly identified as an opinion piece and falls within the Standards of Practice that acknowledges publications are free to publish the by-lined opinions of others that may express robust and at times, provocative views.
Accordingly, we have decided not to refer the matter to the Adjudication Panel. We realise that this outcome is not what you hoped to achieve, and again, we apologise for the regrettable delay in reaching this decision. We welcome your active interest in compliance with appropriate standards of media practice. Please feel free to contact me if you would like any further information or to bring other matters to the attention of the Council.
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:49 pm
Via email: safecyclingaus@gmail.com
Dear Mr Sharp
Re: Gold Coast Bulletin, “Meers: Time to curb pedal power”, 11 December 2012
I apologise for the long delay in communicating with you about this matter.
As previously advised we sought a response from the publication after receiving several complaints.
Having further considered the issues and the publication’s response to the complaint, we do not consider that the level of offence to be so grave as to outweigh public interest in freedom of expression.
In reaching this decision, we note that the article is clearly identified as an opinion piece and falls within the Standards of Practice that acknowledges publications are free to publish the by-lined opinions of others that may express robust and at times, provocative views.
Accordingly, we have decided not to refer the matter to the Adjudication Panel. We realise that this outcome is not what you hoped to achieve, and again, we apologise for the regrettable delay in reaching this decision.
We welcome your active interest in compliance with appropriate standards of media practice. Please feel free to contact me if you would like any further information or to bring other matters to the attention of the Council.
Yours sincerely,
Paul Nangle
Director of Complaints
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Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:50 pm
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Postby wilddemon » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:04 pm
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Postby il padrone » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:09 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby zero » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:27 pm
Nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
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Postby g-boaf » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:09 pm
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Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:22 pm
Seriously? Funded by whom?zero wrote:List of possible punishments available to the adjudication panel.
Nothing.
Nothing.
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Postby trailgumby » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:36 pm
However, in this case, it is preferable to having them regulated by the government, which would be a conflict of interest of Orwellian proportions.
In the absence of a constitutional bill of rights, an independent media - flawed as it is - is at this time our primary and most effective check on the abuse of power by government. I fear the day when that is surrendered.
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Postby high_tea » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:19 pm
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Postby InTheWoods » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:26 pm
+1high_tea wrote: If Daniel Meers is the price we have to pay for a free press then I too am happy to pay it. Doesn't stop me wishing he'd stayed under his rock instead the day he wrote that article...
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Postby winstonw » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:44 pm
It seems cyclists' rights are not protected as vigorously.
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Postby il padrone » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:42 am
What was that I heard you say??trailgumby wrote:In the absence of a constitutional bill of rights, an independent media - flawed as it is - is at this time our primary and most effective check on the abuse of power by government. I fear the day when that is surrendered.
I must be going deaf, I could have sworn you said "independent"
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby Xplora » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:57 pm
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Postby VRE » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:41 am
I'm pretty sceptical about the independence of the media, too. While I understand that the internet mass social media can be pretty persuasive at times, I don't see any real difference between the online media and printed. In both cases, if an article sounds reasonably plausible, a lot of people will believe it, because it may just reinforce their preconceptions. For many, questioning those preconceptions is much more effort than just accepting what the article claims.Xplora wrote:The purpose of this independent media is to protect the citizenry - publishing hatred is no better than government propaganda. It serves the community no better. I do not need the media to think for me. They are either serving the public or they are serving themselves. Either way, if they are not interested in being fair and balanced, they will reap the rewards of what they sow. Most of these bogan chipwrapper fillers will be jobless soon enough because there is no place online for such claptrap; it gets found out for being the garbage that it is.
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Re: Daniel Meers - GoldCoast.com.au - Guilty of Inciting Hat
Postby ldrcycles » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:55 pm
Too true, great example are the chainmail posts that get around on facebook, the most recent ones I can think of claiming that asylum seekers get paid more by the government than pensioners (completely false) and just the other day, a list of "new" qld road rules with the sub-title "they kept these quiet didn't they?" (of course NONE of them were new, and they were all perfectly sensible and reasonable).VRE wrote: if an article sounds reasonably plausible, a lot of people will believe it.
But the interwebz never lets the truth get in the way of a good story.
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