2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
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2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby TTar » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:54 pm
Image and Cached Version Here (ad was removed)
It looks remarkably similar to K-mart's "Southern Star Citi" bike with the "Southern Star" stickers removed;
Last time I saw it in store, it was available for its regular price of $150.
The description is something to behold; http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-c ... 022819958#. My favourite bit is; "strengths and features seen only in a handful of pro bikes ".
I think this seller has been doing the same thing for a couple of years -- it's amazing to think there's enough gullible people around to sustain this, um... activity for so long.,
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Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:32 pm
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:31 pm
That said though, aside from the "value-adding" of the flowery prose and admittedly excellent photography, it is a little underhanded to try and move the thing on for $350, it's worth $150 sure, but not $350.
I'd just like to know how the heck he came up with the term "aviation style speed metres"?
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Postby greyhoundtom » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:35 pm
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby im_no_pro » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:44 pm
End of the day I have no sympathy for anyone who buys it.... Caveat Emptor.greyhoundtom wrote:What a rip off merchant
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby queequeg » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:40 pm
Perhaps it had a built in "VNE" marker, beyond which the frame will fly apart from over speed!ldrcycles wrote:
I'd just like to know how the heck he came up with the term "aviation style speed metres"?
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Postby Derny Driver » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:37 pm
I always wondered why saddles have cutouts in the centre. Now I know...ldrcycles wrote:
I'd just like to know how the heck he came up with the term "aviation style speed metres"?
"comfortable seat with cooling airway"
...to get a cold draught up your date!
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart for 133% more than new
Postby Marto » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:08 pm
And do it with one hand, because the other hand is definitely on it.gorilla monsoon wrote:He or she would make a very good advertising copy writer because whoever it is has verbally managed to make a sow's ear into a silk purse.......
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:17 pm
I hope a patched Comanchero buys it for his child then comes looking for tech advice here once it starts to fall apart on them...
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby im_no_pro » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:29 pm
I bought aa selle saddle for glw the other day, it has a mesh vent on the nose which allows airflow through to another mesh grill, well, you know where.Derny Driver wrote:I always wondered why saddles have cutouts in the centre. Now I know...ldrcycles wrote:
I'd just like to know how the heck he came up with the term "aviation style speed metres"?
"comfortable seat with cooling airway"
...to get a cold draught up your date!
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Postby trailgumby » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:22 pm
Sounds perfect for long course triathlons No need ot stop for "natural breaks'im_no_pro wrote:I bought aa selle saddle for glw the other day, it has a mesh vent on the nose which allows airflow through to another mesh grill, well, you know where.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby im_no_pro » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:19 am
If one was intending to achieve that then I would have thought it would be better off flowing to the back of the saddle rather than the front.... YMMVtrailgumby wrote:Sounds perfect for long course triathlons No need ot stop for "natural breaks'im_no_pro wrote:I bought aa selle saddle for glw the other day, it has a mesh vent on the nose which allows airflow through to another mesh grill, well, you know where.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby find_bruce » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:51 pm
Image and Cached Version Here - Original Gumtree Ad removed
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-r ... 1021165803" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:41 pm
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby bychosis » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:48 pm
'Unique one piece alloy stem only seen in advanced bicycles' I thought quill stems were on the out and only found on BSO's now?
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby TTar » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:27 pm
find_bruce wrote:My spidey senses say there is something going on here - another gumtree ad with a similar photo, random accent in words, eg "Shimâno", unusual address description & the wording is refers to features hitherto unknown "Shimâno leading speed up technology" "Extended triple mountain power" but of course these are "feature seen only in a handful of Advanced bikes"
Image and Cached Version Here - Original Gumtree Ad removed
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-r ... 1021165803" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And here's yet another with all those same oddities in the description;
Image and Cached Version Here - Original Gumtree Ad removed
The one find_Bruce posted is exactly the same ad I've been seeing in Gumtree for a couple years -- either the seller is an astonishing die-hard or they're selling more than one of the same bike.
Somebody with some time on their hands and an expendable email address could have an enormous amount of fun with this character endlessly asking ridiculous questions about the bikes in the same befuddling language of the ads, then apologise for wasting their time because you've just noticed another more preferable bike that you'll be seeking out instead -- of course, it's another of the same seller's bikes and you just repeat the process... hours of fun for all the family.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby queequeg » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:48 pm
http://skullbrain.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45678" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby beanspropulsion » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:01 pm
Actually found it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxlP3yt4f_s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Same bike. Well not the one being sold but you know what I mean.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:42 pm
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby TTar » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:03 pm
beanspropulsion wrote:Have a look out for the H&R Block tax ad.
Actually found it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxlP3yt4f_s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Same bike. Well not the one being sold but you know what I mean.
Yeah, but it's the Cell that does all the tricks.
Although the guy on the K-Mart bike does own "shares and an investment property", so he's doing alright.
Gee, maybe this actually is a glamorous bike?
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby RobM » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:58 pm
Lulz. Glad the giant speed slim wheels allow for various riding speeds. Would hate to be stuck going ultra speed ALL the time.SHAPE - slìm body with advanced flat fork and giant speed slìm road wheels for ultra speed riding (you can ride slowly if you prefer)
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby AUbicycles » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:07 am
I understand buyer beaware however the buyers of these bikes are generally not experienced and while it is legal, it is morally wrong as I it misrepresents the products and value.
The most interesting question is whether anything can be done about it.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby MarkG » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:30 am
That's very reassuring!!
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby K2 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:59 am
If someone can convince Gumtree that the seller has breached the terms and conditions (ie. not being false or misleading), then they may take action.AUbicycles wrote:The most interesting question is whether anything can be done about it.
I guess you'd have to convince them that the first one for example was in fact a Southern Star and not a curiously named Shímano Touch. Or perhaps that it was both false and misleading when it stated "I'll just make it short" and then went on to write a book (as if I can talk) , or highlight any other clear mistruths it contains.
I wouldn't hold my breath though. I've never had any luck getting ads that clearly breach their own conditions removed.
That said, perhaps some kind of mass participation campaign of complaints by some kindly concerned citizens of the interwebz might prove more persuasive?
Say for instance that somebody who knew exactly what they were talking about came across a similar type of glorified puff on some site devoted to advertising various forms of bric-a-brac and suchlike, and that person found an instance or two where the seller had strayed the wrong side of elaboration and then decided to make their discoveries public on some kind of forum or newsboardgroupweb somewhere, then surely there wouldn't be anything wrong with a few thousand folk, who...oh I don't know...perhaps thought that the practice was a bit on the nose and elected of their own free will and in good conscience to bring to the attention of the proprietors of the host site these apparent discrepancies with the terms and conditions and posting practices contained thereupon, all perfectly legally and orderly through some form of sanctioned reporting process obviously (coughaboveandtotherightofthePosterContactInformationcough), and if successful in their endeavours with...let's call it a test case for want of a better term, these same community minded individuals decided to help the proprietors in identifying some similar circumstances occurring therewithin their site, regularly, well surely it would be incumbent upon said proprietors to doff their caps and wish all of these fantastic folk...nay, fine upstanding examples of all that is right and good with the interworlds a "Hail good fellow (or fellowette) and well met, and cheers big time for your selfless assistance in ensuring that our site remains free from...er...let's call them factual errors (I've no idea why I was was thinking of pond life)." Surely....
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