Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
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Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby nezumi » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:20 pm
Genesis:
Croix de Fer: http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/cro ... oix-de-fer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
CdF: http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/cro ... de-fer/cdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vapour: http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/cro ... apour-disc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Charge Filter Hi: http://chargebikes.com/products/filter-hi/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Boardman CX Team/Comp: http://www.boardmanbikes.com/cx/cx_team.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.boardmanbikes.com/cx/cx_comp.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Carbon forks - no mudguards?)
Mongoose Rogue: http://www.mongoose.com/aus/rogue-19593" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Hydraulic disc brakes apparently?)
Norco Threshold: http://99bikes.com.au/norco-threshold-a ... r-red-2013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Whyte King's Cross: http://www.whytebikes.com/2013/product. ... 58&xSec=43" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kona Rove: http://konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=rove" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Waiting list of September?)
Is part of the list I've built so far.
As far as the derailleurs etc goes, is there a benefit to me to pay upfront for higher end gear, or am I better off getting something with lower end gear and looking at them as "consumables"?
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby moosterbounce » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:36 pm
Honestly, the group set will be at consumable eventually. Cassettes, chains etc will be replaced. Shifters and cranks? Nah. But will you notice?
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby rjk » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:44 am
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby Crawf » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:41 am
That Norco is pretty cheap, the groupset isnt the best, but its easily replaced once you get the urge to upgrade.
Remember the frame is the most important thing, everything else can be replaced eventually when you have a better idea of what you want.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby silentbutdeadly » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:59 am
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby MattyK » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:18 am
http://www.specialized.com/au/en-au/bik ... isccompact" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby AP81 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:18 pm
As much as I like Genesis bikes, be mindful that warranties will be a pain and costly. Also, you'll be slugged with import tax, as with the Boardman CX which is also a great bike.
Be weary of the Mongoose Rogue. I think it is actually hi-ten steel.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby Crawf » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:22 pm
Nice on the eye, can't see any mudguard eyelets either.MattyK wrote:Not sure about guards but looks like racks are possible on this:
http://www.specialized.com/au/en-au/bik ... isccompact" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby AP81 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:34 pm
Mudguard eyelets can be easily added via p-clips. As they aren't really load bearing, it isn't much of an issue. Rack mounts are far more important. The secteur can't fit anything wider than a 28" tyre, so that is a fairly limiting factor.Crawf wrote:Nice on the eye, can't see any mudguard eyelets either.MattyK wrote:Not sure about guards but looks like racks are possible on this:
http://www.specialized.com/au/en-au/bik ... isccompact" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby Crawf » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:51 pm
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby greatapoc » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:56 pm
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby misterhorsey » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:28 pm
I was about to suggest the same!greatapoc wrote:How about a Jamis Bosanova?
A friend bought one recently. Nice bike, not terribly pricey either.
Btw, Nezumi, I saw your previous post re: commute from Heidelberg. I have a surly cross check which I've set up with pannier racks and mud guards as my everywhere bike. Surly doesn't represent particularly good value compared to the Norco you've posted, or the Charge or the Jamis for that matter, but I'm really happy with it.
One thing to consider is once you get your sizing and fit right, there may be a few things you'll end up wanting to change based on your experiences riding. You probably won't have any idea of what these changes are until you actually start commuting regularly - so perhaps go with something that feels good, that doesn't hurt the wallet too much, but expect to make a few adjustments here and there.
Also, as I'm only down the road from you in Northcote, I'd be happy to talk you through my bike if you'd like - its likely to be too small for you for a test ride, but happy to talk you through some of the things I've learnt from commuting (i.e., mudguards, pannier racks and good lights are essential). PM if you're interested.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby nezumi » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:22 pm
I had seen that one, It was on my mental list to check out.misterhorsey wrote:I was about to suggest the same!greatapoc wrote:How about a Jamis Bosanova?
Btw, Nezumi, I saw your previous post re: commute from Heidelberg. I have a surly cross check which I've set up with pannier racks and mud guards as my everywhere bike. Surly doesn't represent particularly good value compared to the Norco you've posted, or the Charge or the Jamis for that matter, but I'm really happy with it.
Also, as I'm only down the road from you in Northcote, I'd be happy to talk you through my bike if you'd like - its likely to be too small for you for a test ride, but happy to talk you through some of the things I've learnt from commuting (i.e., mudguards, pannier racks and good lights are essential). PM if you're interested.
Thanks for the offer, I'd love to take you up on it, but it will have to be at least two weekends away - the perils of life. I'll be in touch.
As much as I want a nice shiny new bike, I agree that I should shy away from laying down all my cash on something which I may upgrade within the year.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby misterhorsey » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:28 pm
If there's one major change I might introduce one day, it would be a dynamo hub. For the quality of the light as well as the absence of batteries. Also, I quite like the aesthetics and the nice ride of steel.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby JBark » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:02 pm
http://www.merida.com.au/2013-bikes/cyc ... ross-4.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note that while the pictures online don't show eyelets, they exist on the production models. I noticed the same thing with the 2012 model, which I own. No eyelets in the online pictures, but lugs at both the front and rear forks, plus lugs up on the seat stay for a rack
I've got very few complaints about my 2012 model, and I ride the same distance you're talking about 5 days/week. Replaced tyres with Schwalbe MPs, added some SKS fenders and a Topeak rack+bag, and she's a solid commuter that gets me to/from work with no fuss every day.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby AP81 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:33 pm
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby holmesy » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:24 pm
From an aesthetic view,the look of the whyte kings cross (the nicest looking bike i have seen for a while!)and the genesis vapour do it for me (which of course is 99% of why you should buy!) but I couldn't be arsed with import so it might rule them out, the avanti above is also a looker and would do me (apart from the question of a double v triple) and the jamis with a triple is a contender
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby il padrone » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:42 am
Special interchangeable frame ends allow it to be set-up as SS, derailleur or IGH (mmm.... Rohloff!). Split-frame for belt-drive as well.
More discussion of it, and more photos here:
http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=77786" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby Nobody » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:14 am
Be interesting to see what the geometry charts look like.il padrone wrote:Thene there's also the new Specialized AWOL.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby TTar » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:18 am
il padrone wrote:Thene there's also the new Specialized AWOL.
Special interchangeable frame ends allow it to be set-up as SS, derailleur or IGH (mmm.... Rohloff!). Split-frame for belt-drive as well.
Seems like a good idea, especially if you've only got space for a single frame, but my god it's ugly!
You should cross post in the ugly bike thread.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby Nobody » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:47 am
Can't see why it's ugly, but I suppose it comes down to what your taste is normalised to for each of us. If anything, I thought is was better looking than my current bike which is built for a similar application.TTar wrote:You should cross post in the ugly bike thread.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby TTar » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:11 pm
"Too" thin seat stays, top tube and forks. Fat tyres and disc brakes on a frame they normally would have no business being on. Those brifters and that saddle also have no business being on that frame. The handlebars make a mockery of the "drop" part of drop handlebars. The pedals might be perfectly appropriate for that configuration, but (surely you'd agree) they're just plain ugly on that bike. The silver FD grates with the otherwise black themed ensemble. The crank arms look "stubby and heavy duty" clashing with the "classy" look of the rest of the crank. It would be unfair to express a dislike of the frame end's appearance, but on top of everything else...Nobody wrote:Can't see why it's ugly,TTar wrote:You should cross post in the ugly bike thread.
I'm just reacting to a photo and of course it might be different in the flesh, but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who likes the look of this Frankenstein of a bike.
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Re: Drop bars, disc brakes and guards/racks
Postby nezumi » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:18 pm
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/to ... /crossrip/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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