Help identify frame and fork

[etlie]

So I recently purchased a bike but have no idea what the frame make is.

- There are absolutely no stickers or logos on it.
- Steel frame (Presumably because I tested it with a magnet)
- The serial number is located underneath the bottom tube near the bottom bracket and is 8 characters long, with the first character a letter and the other 7 digits - "P932XXXX" is the first half of the serial number.
- The dropouts are forged (I think, because there are adjustment screws).
- The lugs have characters on them such as "G3", but its hard to read because they are so small.
- The bike itself has shimano 1050 and 500ex components.

Thank you very much
etlie

[P!N20]

A picture of the frame in question with detail shots of the lugs, dropouts, and anything else that may assist in identifying the frame would help considerably.

[etlie]

Photos as requested

[munga]

Protour

[morini]

Jap running gear.........Jap frame?

[etlie]

bump

[P!N20]

While it looks like a nice little frame, I don't see anything that would assist in identifying it.

[im_no_pro]

Looks a hell of a lot like the Apollo i'm rebuilding at the moment (see here. Will have a closer look tonight/tomorrow when I get into the shed but lugs/dropouts/pump holder (I assume thats what it is) all look to be identical.

[etlie]

Any other ideas?

[rkelsen]

Jap running gear.........Jap frame?

This. It looks like it's from the Tange catalogue to me, but I'm far from an expert so I may well be wrong. There were many brands which used stock Tange frames (Centurion, Shogun, etc.). This could be any one of those. The style, geometry and equipment is consistent with mid-range Japanese (or Taiwanese) racing bikes from the late 80s/early 90s.

It certainly is a keeper. Clean it up and ride it.

[etlie]

After some help from im_no_pro, I'm fairly certain the bike is an Apollo Concorde. Thanks guys

Etlie

[Kermit TF]

Its similar to one of my many apollos..

[im_no_pro]

After some help from im_no_pro, I'm fairly certain the bike is an Apollo Concorde. Thanks guys

Etlie

As I said, no garauntee its an apollo let alone a concorde. Matched your pics up alongside mine tonight, only difference is mine has eyelets on the rear dropouts. Everything else is identical to your pics. Mine's tange 900 with 4130 fork, 26.6 seatpost. 88 model based on the components was my initial finding, but I have just dated my front hub to May 1989

Either way I doubt you will definitively identify what it was originally branded, unless you find a way to ID it from the serial # but even then I dont know whether the serial # was a factory mark or a brand mark (i would assume brand but dont know). Either way you've got yourself a reasonable quality jap frame.