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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby vosadrian » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:53 am
It is hard to get accurate info on the gradient from Strava. It seems to be a very noisy parameter and jump around all over the place. That last km or so of Bowen is steep. Seems to be around 15% and go for a good half a km atleast at one point. How does Wark compare to that?

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby eon » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:47 pm
vosadrian wrote:So Wark is much worse than Bowen? Steeper, Longer? All of the above?
It is hard to get accurate info on the gradient from Strava. It seems to be a very noisy parameter and jump around all over the place. That last km or so of Bowen is steep. Seems to be around 15% and go for a good half a km atleast at one point. How does Wark compare to that?
I wouldnt say 'col de wark' is steeper, but certainly a couple of bowen like sections and definitely longer..
After climbing Bell Bird for about 4.5+km then you turn left to wark hill rd which is prob the steepest part of 'col de wark', it hurts.

last little bit @13.3% for 800 meteres
http://app.strava.com/segments/1186126

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby Xplora » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:51 pm
Yep I think 34/32 might be the order of the day... Contador was on the juice and still used that for the big hill days

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby vosadrian » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:05 pm
eon wrote:vosadrian wrote:So Wark is much worse than Bowen? Steeper, Longer? All of the above?
It is hard to get accurate info on the gradient from Strava. It seems to be a very noisy parameter and jump around all over the place. That last km or so of Bowen is steep. Seems to be around 15% and go for a good half a km atleast at one point. How does Wark compare to that?
I wouldnt say 'col de wark' is steeper, but certainly a couple of bowen like sections and definitely longer..
After climbing Bell Bird for about 4.5+km then you turn left to wark hill rd which is prob the steepest part of 'col de wark', it hurts.![]()
last little bit @13.3% for 800 meteres
http://app.strava.com/segments/1186126
Last 200m averages 18.5%. That is torture in my books. I recently got some light wheels and 11-28 cassette (39 front), so I'll give it a go when my knee recovers.

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby eon » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:52 pm
vosadrian wrote:So Wark is much worse than Bowen? Steeper, Longer? All of the above?
I think this sums it up Adrian
http://app.strava.com/activities/64599111
First peak is Wark, second is bowen, third is Springwood lookout.
Wark's a b1tch.


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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby vosadrian » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:19 pm
I will add that one to the list some day... might wait for my knee to recover fully first.
Awesome ride by the way. Let me know if you do it again some time. I would like to attempt to tag along.

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby eon » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:50 am
vosadrian wrote:Awesome ride by the way. Let me know if you do it again some time. I would like to attempt to tag along.
going Bellbird+wark on sunday.
5am start from Baulko. takes about 1.5h to get to the start of the climb.
you keen ?

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Re: Bellbird Hill
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Re: Bellbird Hill
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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby vosadrian » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:57 am
Looks like I am getting wet riding home today...


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Re: Bellbird Hill
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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby eon » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:16 pm
rogan wrote:Hey Ehly, do you mind if I tag along?
tag along ? what you mean ? looking at some of your rides you'd be dragging me up that hill. =)
i'll try not to sleep in this time..
all welcome to join as long as your keen at stupid oclock. =) be nice to have some company.
5:10-15 meet at Norwest/Windsor... or Start of NORWESTER section . =)
I leave home at 5 but take me about 10minutes to get there..

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby Xplora » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:22 pm
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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby rogan » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:12 pm
Only ever done Bellbird in a downhill direction. (Glebe - Penrith - Mt Victoria - Bilpin - Richmond - Glebe - 260 km at 30 km/h solo with I'm guessing ~3000 m vertical 21 years ago when I was young and silly).

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby eon » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:19 pm
rogan wrote:Only ever done Bellbird in a downhill direction. (Glebe - Penrith - Mt Victoria - Bilpin - Richmond - Glebe - 260 km at 30 km/h solo with I'm guessing ~3000 m vertical 21 years ago when I was young and silly).
30 avg with 3000m climbing



I stayed up last night till the last 6-8kms.. i just remember contador attacking the downhill then they got to the foot of the climb. then fell asleep.
woke up and they showing the results


watched highlights in the morn instead... now frieken shattered at work.
Xplora wrote:I'm assuming we'd be doing 33-34 avg out to Richmond, shame I am not allowed to buy your Zipps, eon, would help me keep up a lot!
you'd be fine dude, but if you really want the 606..

more like 30-32. I don't want to be smashed before we even get to the start. but if you guys want to Smash/TT the flat, i'm happy to wheel suck


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Re: Bellbird Hill
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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby eon » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:21 am
Xplora wrote:Honestly, I'd rather start at 5:30 and lead the train out at 38+ avg. It's very easy on the way out![]()
alright, alright -> lets start at 5:30am
only because you said you'll lead us out at 38avg on the way there..
cool.

another mate is meeting us up at Kellyville Mcrs at 5:40ish.

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby Xplora » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:08 am

Should we just start rolling along Windsor northbound in the small ring (say 25kmh) to allow people to catch up, and then once we've either got everyone, or got to Sunnyholt, we ramp it up? Gives a chance for late risers, and probably a sensible warmup routine because I'm more than happy to TT the group out to Richmond if we roll a couple short turns.
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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby eon » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:23 am
Xplora wrote:Hey I'm cool with punishing the late riser
Should we just start rolling along Windsor northbound in the small ring (say 25kmh) to allow people to catch up, and then once we've either got everyone, or got to Sunnyholt, we ramp it up? Gives a chance for late risers, and probably a sensible warmup routine because I'm more than happy to TT the group out to Richmond if we roll a couple short turns.
Lets just start at 530. If noone there will jus roll.. TT to wark. Hurt like a bitch up, wohoooo on the way down, then TT back home:)
N be home bout 930.

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Re: Bellbird Hill
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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby rogan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:40 pm
Coming back, depending on time, I will probably turn off at Pitt Town Rd or Annangrove Rd.
Looking fwd to it!


btw my lowest is a 39x25, so my aim is to avoid the walk of shame!

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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby Xplora » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:06 pm

Sorted!!!
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Re: Bellbird Hill
Postby eon » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:36 pm
rogan wrote:OK 5.30 it is, cnr of Windsor Rd and Norwest (nb NOT Old Windsor Rd).
yep =)
A or B
http://goo.gl/maps/Mhgi4
oh i'm trying out a 28, just quietly.

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