Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
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Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby rogan » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:53 am
McGrath's Hill McDonalds, cnr of Windsor Rd and the Hawkesbury Valley Way. The most notorious 'pie in Sydney. I got smacked into on Sunday, on that Bellbird Hill ride with eon and Xplora. It kept swooping us, and then attacked another rider. No scratches or anything, so no damage done.
But I thought the Council had, umm, counselled that magpie to make better choices (using a rifle). Maybe this is the next generation?
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby herzog » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:13 am
Does.
Not.
Give.
Up.
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby ozzymac » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:34 am
Stupid bird....
Cheers
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby bychosis » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:30 am
Brother in law got swooped in Mayfield (newcastle) last week. A usual suspect, but very early in the season.
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby grantw » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:37 am
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby eon » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:23 am
yep - i've been smacked at thiis section in the past and left me with a cut behind my ear.rogan wrote:McGrath's Hill McDonalds, cnr of Windsor Rd and the Hawkesbury Valley Way. The most notorious 'pie in Sydney. I got smacked into on Sunday, on that Bellbird Hill ride with eon and Xplora. It kept swooping us, and then attacked another rider.
Seemed to have an appettite to Rogans helmet. I was next/near him on the way in and out of McDonalds. Both times the magpie went for him.
Can't beleive its out so early in the season... it was like 7-9degrees that morning.
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby TimW » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:50 am
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby g-boaf » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:17 pm
It's not even warm yet!
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby gorilla monsoon » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:55 pm
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby TimW » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:37 pm
(AT) Josh, it hit the big time in the hawkesbury gazzette last year i believe, and was relocated or so i thought, it has become more agressive since last Monday week, i rode past it at twighlight on the path and it was sitting on a sign and just looked at me. Since then he has developed more into the Devil he really is!!!!
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby lobstermash » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:42 pm
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby grantw » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:45 pm
I'd rather get peckedlobstermash wrote:You can always put the dorky looking zip ties or alien eyes on your helmet if you're that worried about your safety from being swooped. They haven't got going in Canberra yet.
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Postby lobstermash » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:54 pm
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby TimW » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:15 pm
grantw wrote:I'd rather get peckedlobstermash wrote:You can always put the dorky looking zip ties or alien eyes on your helmet if you're that worried about your safety from being swooped. They haven't got going in Canberra yet.
+2
Not worried it just annoys me. The Magraths Hill Magpie still gets you at 20 kph or 50 kph, he also on occasions jumps on your back or helmet and tries to rip your jersey/helmet off. As i have said before, this one is pure evil....more than most, and would be better off if it were attacking angels in heaven rather than humans on earth.
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby vosadrian » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:39 pm
I remember last year it was eyeing me off and was sitting on the "beware of Magpies" sign. Meant to take a photo... it looked pretty funny.
He got blood from my ear on one occasion last year.
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby leximack » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:44 pm
Just go around it, turn left the street before and go around, its no longer (presuming your going to Richmond and not over the Windsor bridge and even then only adds a small amount of time).
I prefer to enjoy my ride then worry about a magpie that can rip your ears off
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby g-boaf » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:24 pm
I agree with you on that, if it is that aggressive it needs to be destroyed. I thought it had been destroyed already.TimW wrote:The one at Mcgraths Hill is evil incarnate, and will kill someone soon by forcing them into the path of a car. If its a safety matter then that particular bird should be relocated to Byron Bay, so it can have a nice little greeny group hug with other magpies,failing that, it should be destroyed.
(AT) Josh, it hit the big time in the hawkesbury gazzette last year i believe, and was relocated or so i thought, it has become more agressive since last Monday week, i rode past it at twighlight on the path and it was sitting on a sign and just looked at me. Since then he has developed more into the Devil he really is!!!!
The problem is when a magpie causes someone to crash and end up under a vehicle. You cannot outrun them either. I've been doing 55km/h and still been hit on the side of the helmet by one.
Personally if one attacks me and I get anywhere near swinging distance of it, I'll defend myself and do whatever is needed to stop the threat. I put my safety ahead of that of the bird.
Those of you who know me well enough do know I'm a Greenie if ever there was one. I love those animals, but if it tries to hurt me, it's another story.
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby scotto » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:03 pm
contact the local council
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby Dave_C » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:39 am
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby TTar » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:34 pm
leximack wrote:ear
vosadrian wrote:ear
TimW wrote:ear
Anyone notice a pattern here?eon wrote:ear
I too have copped a bloody ear courtesy of a magpie and I'm wondering might there not be a more dignified way for cyclists to protect ourselves than the ridiculously ornate installations you often see?
Perhaps you only need to protect your ears and I've long fancied those little "ear-muff" type things designed to cut out wind noise -- expanding on the idea, maybe something that wraps around the back of ears and beyond would be an effective prevention?
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby Summernight » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:00 pm
Like a headband? I wear my headsox over my ears under the helmet and it completely covers the tops and backs of the ears. Although I have yet to experience the pleasure of being swooped by a magpie on the bicycle.TTar wrote:Perhaps you only need to protect your ears and I've long fancied those little "ear-muff" type things designed to cut out wind noise -- expanding on the idea, maybe something that wraps around the back of ears and beyond would be an effective prevention?
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby rogan » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:56 pm
There are bigger dangers out on the roads than magpies, and your hearing is one way to protect yourself against those dangers. I am personally against anything that interferes with hearing, although a simple headband would probably be OK. Whether it deters 'pies...TTar wrote:leximack wrote:earvosadrian wrote:earTimW wrote:earAnyone notice a pattern here?eon wrote:ear
I too have copped a bloody ear courtesy of a magpie and I'm wondering might there not be a more dignified way for cyclists to protect ourselves than the ridiculously ornate installations you often see?
Perhaps you only need to protect your ears and I've long fancied those little "ear-muff" type things designed to cut out wind noise -- expanding on the idea, maybe something that wraps around the back of ears and beyond would be an effective prevention?
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby Xplora » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:50 pm
DONE. Gosh it's a lot of spank, but there you go.scotto wrote:that magpie must be killed. sooner or later someone will be seriously hurt by it.
contact the local council
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I would like to register a complaint in regarding to the magpie has been swooping pedestrians and cyclists at the intersection of Groves St and Windsor Rd. Could you please investigate what alternatives are available for dealing with this bird? I am certain you are aware of its particularly aggressive nature and famed dislike of cyclists. I would agree that for the drivers at the intersection it creates a lot of amusement as it attacks more vulnerable members of the community, however from the council's perspective, it is a public liability issue as this particular bird is a well known danger, and creates a genuine road hazard as cyclists often use the breakdown lane for riding, but the bird's aggression leads them to focus on the sky and not the road. The liability aspect is simply that the council does have a duty of care towards all citizens, and unfortunately this bird's nature and choice of nesting location makes for a very dangerous place to ride a bike. Not all riders are aware of this, and newcomers to the area are particularly vulnerable to attacks, whether they are faster riders in the breakdown lane or slower riders on the bike path. To make matters worse, the lights at the intersection guarantee that the rider will have to submit to the possibility of attack as they can't simply attempt to ride away from the magpie's territory. The nature of the intersection westbound is 6 lanes across (2 each way plus a bus lane and a turning lane) which requires additional care on the part of the rider and drivers near them. I believe the risk to riders is substantial, as they can genuinely expect to get injured by the magpie, which exposes them to serious risk from traffic.
I don't believe changing the light sequence is a very good solution, and citizens can expect to be attacked for the next couple of months, which is far too long to expose road users to the dangers of both being hit by a car or truck, or hitting a distracted rider. Given this problem is long term since it has been happening for several years, destroying the bird appears to be a reasonable response given the considerable liability faced by the council, given that human life will always take precedence over an animal.
I would appreciate correspondence in relation to the follow up of my complaint, and would be happy to provide further paperwork if necessary to enable further steps to be taken for the safety of my fellow citizens.
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby schroeds » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:29 pm
Usually I don't bleed there till I fall off the tricky section
On the plus side, didn't catch bird flu or whatever
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Re: Magpies v Cyclists - 2013 season
Postby trailgumby » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:28 pm
Being a mountain biker and very much in favour of protection of native species and the natural environment, personally I think this is a ridiculous inversion of priorities. There have been incidents reported of young children having eyesight irreparably damaged by these birds and affecting someone's whole life for the sake of a bird that lives a few years is just stupid. It's not at all like they're an endangered species.
Seems to me they'd be better off if "natural selection" was allowed to take its course and birds with this behaviour were removed from the gene pool.
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