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Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:01 pm
by Newcastle Dave
Well I just had a Facebook 'Memory" show up (yeh I know Facebook is a waste of time etc), but on this day 11 years ago I rode home from work down the Fernleigh track. The pic shows the temperature on my bike computer as 44 degrees. I remember it was actually showing 45 at one stage but I didnt stop to get a pic
The big difference was the humidity, it was extremely low (the leather on my shoes started creaking)
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:12 pm
by brumby33
I remember that day, it actually got to 47C in Hamilton and I rode my motorcycle back home to New Lambton and the Sun cooked my Seiko Solar watch.....it was toast
brumby33
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:12 pm
by Newcastle Dave
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:12 pm
I remember that day, it actually got to 47C in Hamilton and I rode my motorcycle back home to New Lambton and the Sun cooked my Seiko Solar watch.....it was toast
brumby33
The worst part was when I got to Belmont and called my wife to see if she could pick me up she couldn't make it, so I had to ride up past the hospital and then up the hill to my place. I live at the top of a hill that is 10% average, with a maximum of 15% or 16%. It was a slow ride
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:59 pm
by Andy01
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:12 pm
I remember that day, it actually got to 47C in Hamilton and I rode my motorcycle back home to New Lambton and the Sun cooked my Seiko Solar watch.....it was toast
brumby33
Bit ironic having a solar powered watch cooked by the sun
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:01 pm
by Andy01
Update : Currently at 3pm it is sitting on 33.1°, 58% humidity and feels like 37.9°. Not pleasant.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:02 pm
by elantra
Andy01 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:01 pm
Update : Currently at 3pm it is sitting on 33.1°, 58% humidity and feels like 37.9°. Not pleasant.
Interesting how altitude affects temperature.
I have just driven from Cadence Cafe (at Nerang, Gold Coast) to Murwillumbah. 70 km via the Numinbah Gap Road.
Crosses the border through a gap in the Border Ranges at an altitude of 400 m above sea level.
Car outside temperature recorded in Nerang was 31 degrees. High humidity, approx 80 %
As soon as the road starts to climb the car registers a gradual fall in ambient temperature, not much really but nice to look at the dash and see the number getting less; 30 , 29 , 28 , 27 , and yes after a short stop at the top it was 26 degrees !
Some might not find that interesting but I do
Needless to say that at the bottom of descent on NSW side of border it was back up to 30 degrees.
But near Chillingham I stopped the car briefly at a creek crossing and let the clear cold mountain water rush over my feet.
Highly recommended !
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:10 pm
by brumby33
Andy01 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:59 pm
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:12 pm
I remember that day, it actually got to 47C in Hamilton and I rode my motorcycle back home to New Lambton and the Sun cooked my Seiko Solar watch.....it was toast
brumby33
Bit ironic having a solar powered watch cooked by the sun
LOL Yeah Andy, I don't think they were designed to take 47C of direct sunlight for some reason. I've had 2 Solar watches and both Seiko and they really don't last in our temps here. In Japan where I bought it, it's a bit different as they don't get to 40C often, it's the Humidity that usually gets you. I was there in Summer 18 Months ago I found that Tokyo Humidity isn't that much worse than Brisbane...but that's just me.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:15 pm
by brumby33
elantra wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:02 pm
Andy01 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:01 pm
Update : Currently at 3pm it is sitting on 33.1°, 58% humidity and feels like 37.9°. Not pleasant.
Interesting how altitude affects temperature.
I have just driven from Cadence Cafe (at Nerang, Gold Coast) to Murwillumbah. 70 km via the Numinbah Gap Road.
Crosses the border through a gap in the Border Ranges at an altitude of 400 m above sea level.
Car outside temperature recorded in Nerang was 31 degrees. High humidity, approx 80 %
As soon as the road starts to climb the car registers a gradual fall in ambient temperature, not much really but nice to look at the dash and see the number getting less; 30 , 29 , 28 , 27 , and yes after a short stop at the top it was 26 degrees !
Some might not find that interesting but I do
Needless to say that at the bottom of descent on NSW side of border it was back up to 30 degrees.
But near Chillingham I stopped the car briefly at a creek crossing and let the clear cold mountain water rush over my feet.
Highly recommended !
In my aviation days, it was taught to us that for every 1,000 feet (333 mtres) in altitude, you lose 2C in temperature. So on a 1,000 mtre (3,00ft) mtn, you'll lose about 6C which can be significant on a 36C day
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:42 pm
by Andy01
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:10 pm
Andy01 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:59 pm
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:12 pm
I remember that day, it actually got to 47C in Hamilton and I rode my motorcycle back home to New Lambton and the Sun cooked my Seiko Solar watch.....it was toast
brumby33
Bit ironic having a solar powered watch cooked by the sun
LOL Yeah Andy, I don't think they were designed to take 47C of direct sunlight for some reason. I've had 2 Solar watches and both Seiko and they really don't last in our temps here. In Japan where I bought it, it's a bit different as they don't get to 40C often, it's the Humidity that usually gets you. I was there in Summer 18 Months ago I found that Tokyo Humidity isn't that much worse than Brisbane...but that's just me.
At the risk of jinxing it, I have had a Citizen Eco-Drive solar watch for about 10 years and wear it constantly, including in full sun on the beach etc and it hasn't missed a beat.
I put my wife's little Eco-Drive and my Eco-Drive dress watch out in the sun every 3 months for the day to keep them charged as neither is worn frequently. My wife used to keep hers in a drawer and the rechargable battery died on it (presumably due to repeated over-discharge) and I replaced the battery myself. Now they live on the dressing table but go out for some sun baking every 3 months for a boost. Both watches are 2012 models.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:09 pm
by brumby33
Andy01 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:42 pm
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:10 pm
Andy01 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:59 pm
Bit ironic having a solar powered watch cooked by the sun
LOL Yeah Andy, I don't think they were designed to take 47C of direct sunlight for some reason. I've had 2 Solar watches and both Seiko and they really don't last in our temps here. In Japan where I bought it, it's a bit different as they don't get to 40C often, it's the Humidity that usually gets you. I was there in Summer 18 Months ago I found that Tokyo Humidity isn't that much worse than Brisbane...but that's just me.
At the risk of jinxing it, I have had a Citizen Eco-Drive solar watch for about 10 years and wear it constantly, including in full sun on the beach etc and it hasn't missed a beat.
I put my wife's little Eco-Drive and my Eco-Drive dress watch out in the sun every 3 months for the day to keep them charged as neither is worn frequently. My wife used to keep hers in a drawer and the rechargable battery died on it (presumably due to repeated over-discharge) and I replaced the battery myself. Now they live on the dressing table but go out for some sun baking every 3 months for a boost. Both watches are 2012 models.
Yeah I hadn't looked at Citizen watches as Seiko is more popular over there and I got 2 Seiko Solar watches (the first one was a gift from in-laws) Now I haven't worn a watch since i can check the time on my mobile and in the bus I drive, there's multiple time pieces with the control screens I use so usually i don't have much use for a watch anymore. I would like one of those digital health watches though that takes pulses and so forth. You liked my hi tech description?
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:42 pm
by robbo mcs
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:15 pm
In my aviation days, it was taught to us that for every 1,000 feet (333 mtres) in altitude, you lose 2C in temperature. So on a 1,000 mtre (3,00ft) mtn, you'll lose about 6C which can be significant on a 36C day
It is called the Adiabatic Lapse Rate
The dry adiabatic lapse rate is 9.8C per 1000m elevation, so effectively 1C per 100m. However, usually less than that in moist air, more in the range you quote
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:19 pm
by g-boaf
I’m out. Had enough of this.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:27 pm
by Duck!
g-boaf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:19 pm
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:09 pm
I would like one of those digital health watches though that takes pulses and so forth. You liked my hi tech description?
After a long time being doubtful, I ended up getting an Apple watch. If you also have an iPhone then it's very convenient. So much so that I don't bother wearing normal watches anymore. I do like the tracking of sleep time, heart rate, etc and I use it when I go walking (it has Strava watch app to track those). You can also answer phone calls quickly on the watch without needing to get the phone out.
I used to have Garmin watch but gave up on it - it always gave troubles uploading activities and I seemed to forever be charging it. Rather than have two different watches for different purposes one does the job.
I suppose the other smart watches would be reasonable.
Not seeing the relevance to chucking down rain in this one.....
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:27 pm
by am50em
My Garmin watch gets charged every 10-14 days with24x7 wearing,. I don't think Apple watches match that. I looked at them as they can pick up in heart arrhythmias but their battery lifetime was very poor. My brother likes his Apple watch, just charges every night before bed.
No problems with Garmin in uploading activities.
Waterproof,sun proof and scratch proof.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:29 pm
by am50em
Duck! wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:27 pm
g-boaf wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:19 pm
brumby33 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:09 pm
I would like one of those digital health watches though that takes pulses and so forth. You liked my hi tech description?
After a long time being doubtful, I ended up getting an Apple watch. If you also have an iPhone then it's very convenient. So much so that I don't bother wearing normal watches anymore. I do like the tracking of sleep time, heart rate, etc and I use it when I go walking (it has Strava watch app to track those). You can also answer phone calls quickly on the watch without needing to get the phone out.
I used to have Garmin watch but gave up on it - it always gave troubles uploading activities and I seemed to forever be charging it. Rather than have two different watches for different purposes one does the job.
I suppose the other smart watches would be reasonable.
Not seeing the relevance to chucking down rain in this one.....
Not seeing the point in useless quoting of an immediately preceding post.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:32 pm
by warthog1
My wife got me a Samsung watch a few years back.
Wore it for a short time snd then back in its' box amd in the drawer.
I don't actually want all those notifications, I just found them annoying. Zero interest in any of them.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:48 pm
by Duck!
am50em wrote:
Not seeing the point in useless quoting of an immediately preceding post.
I agree, but glaringly irrelevant posts ought to be called out to try to keep things somewhat related! (I had intended to respond to this without quoting, but someone jumped in while I was typing!)
To get back on topic, we had another uncharacteristically heavy dumping in Melbourne on Monday. Not as heavy as the one last week which flooded half of the circuit I work in, but still enough to bring my normally (artificially redirected) subterranean creek above ground for the second time in a week. Normally it's a once in several years occurrence!
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:56 pm
by warthog1
Duck! wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:48 pm
am50em wrote:
Not seeing the point in useless quoting of an immediately preceding post.
I agree, but glaringly irrelevant posts ought to be called out to try to keep things somewhat related! (I had intended to respond to this without quoting, but someone jumped in while I was typing!)
To get back on topic, we had another uncharacteristically heavy dumping in Melbourne on Monday. Not as heavy as the one last week which flooded half of the circuit I work in, but still enough to bring my normally (artificially redirected) subterranean creek above ground for the second time in a week. Normally it's a once in several years occurrence!
Sorry once Noahs ark was introduced as example of there being another possible reason for climate change than what the science tells us, I find staying "on topic" as not something to really worry about
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:28 pm
by nezumi
Had a very satisfying ride in to work in Melbourne yesterday. Looked at the BOM as I was eating breakfast, saw the band of rain rolling in and decided to get a wriggle on to try and beat it.
Arrived at work having experienced the lightest of sprinkling on the way in, and by the time I got upstairs after my shower etc, the skies had opened up - cue 30 minutes of colleagues walking in looking rather sorry for themselves.
To top it off, my predictions of a clear afternoon were borne out, and the ride home was actually a bit too hot!
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:52 pm
by brumby33
Hahaha....yeah kinda somewhat off track...I guess somewhere in the midst it could be related......timing yourself between downpours for example, especially if you live in Melbourne but lately can be about anywhere on the Eastside really
Noah is still out there somewhere.....awaiting for more instructions
Apparently, the next week should be rather fine & dandy
cheers
brumby33
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:42 pm
by elantra
Hot, very hot up this way today.
But not too hot to do a restricted ride early in the day.
For me there are various stages of heat.
The “keep-red-wine-in-the-fridge stage” reached weeks ago.
The “order iced-coffee and nil cake” post-ride stage was attained this morning.
This morning’s ride was iconic Currumbin Valley.
The southernmost watercourse in Queensland.
Possibly this morning also one of the coolest places in Queensland.
In other words not very cool at all.
Ironically, in the summer months, the coolest place in Qld is usually a little town in the mountains south-west of Cairns, known as Herberton.
Rather a paradox considering that it is 1,500 km north of Brisbane.
Anyway Here is a soothing picture of cool flowing water from the headwaters of Currumbin Ck this morning.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:50 am
by Andy01
Yup, today's a warm one. It was 30°, feels like 35.2° (dew point 25.4° & 78% humidity) when I finished my ride at 8am (Brisbane southside). I have had water flowing like that (a lot dirtier though
) across the two (normally dry) gravel stretches I ride for the last week now. Even at 30°, the pool water felt refreshing when I had a quick dip afterwards.
Forecast to hit 37°, feels like 42° by 1pm today.
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:47 am
by jasonc
the apparent temp is already 38.9 (as at 10:30).....
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:04 pm
by foo on patrol
jasonc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:47 am
the apparent temp is already 38.9 (as at 10:30).....
It peaked at 39.1 here at 4.15.
Foo
Re: The Big Wet
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:29 am
by Andy01
It got to 38.3° at 1:54pm, and feels like 43.2° (still 44% humidity even at that temperature) - VERY unpleasant.
Thank goodness it is cooler today at about 29°.